Spurs to offer Duncan at least $11M per year

[benefactor]

in the open market his worth more then 10, but not many teams are going to throw that +10m at him if it doesnt improve them to become legit contenders...i dont want to see management overpaying for duncan and crippling the teams paycap for next 3-4 years (just like RJ OVER evaluation)

I don't really have good words to say how dumb this ing take is. You seem to hit new levels every time I log in.

You pay Tim Duncan...period. Saying stupid like the above drivel is a slap in the face of a player that made this team what it is today. He is the franchise, no matter how old he is. Stop ing looking at him from role player/production = worth standpoint and remember what he has done for this city and this team. Who gives a if the Spurs can't contend over the next few seasons? He's Tim Duncan. Tim. ing. Duncan.

Pay him.

[urunobili]

I think TD will suggest less to get a huge free agent and get a chance to win big TBH. He deserves 15 IMO, but i think he'll ask something int he ball park of 8 so that they can still be a force.

[TDMVPDPOY]

I don't really have good words to say how dumb this ing take is. You seem to hit new levels every time I log in.

You pay Tim Duncan...period. Saying stupid like the above drivel is a slap in the face of a player that made this team what it is today. He is the franchise, no matter how old he is. Stop ing looking at him from role player/production = worth standpoint and remember what he has done for this city and this team. Who gives a if the Spurs can't contend over the next few seasons? He's Tim Duncan. Tim. ing. Duncan.

Pay him.

he is already on a loyalty contract, at what point in time are you going to stop paying the loyalty card? if duncan was playin pass 40yrs old and still avg 13/9 cause the league has all at center/pf as compe ion, u going to pay him according to what the chumps at his position are also gettin paid??

u know how bad the league is when gimps on their last legs are posting up better numbers then the younger players at their position in the league who are gettin paid todays market rate base on now and future potential to retain talent, gimps asking the same type of money....


at the end of the day, its not what the team can do for you, but what can you do for the team

[Horse]

He's finding different ways to get it done, he's never been super athletic so no reason to think he can't be effective for 2 or 3 more seasons.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Do you really think Neal doesn't have it in his head that he's at the very least a borderline all star?

I'm betting he doesn't see himself as such. After all, he wasn't even selected to the Rising Stars game as a sop re. Gary Neal is a solid NBA rotation player. There are only 24 All Stars in any given year out of ~360 players. Not the same thing at all.

[benefactor]

he is already on a loyalty contract, at what point in time are you going to stop paying the loyalty card? if duncan was playin pass 40yrs old and still avg 13/9 cause the league has all at center/pf as compe ion, u going to pay him according to what the chumps at his position are also gettin paid??

He's not on a loyalty contract, you dumb bas . His initial deal was signed in 2003 and he got the extension in November of 2007...right after the Spurs won a ing championship.

u know how bad the league is when gimps on their last legs are posting up better numbers then the younger players at their position in the league who are gettin paid todays market rate base on now and future potential to retain talent, gimps asking the same type of money....


at the end of the day, its not what the team can do for you, but what can you do for the team

He did it for the team...4 times to be exact...so your spoiled ass could still be a fan. He gets whatever he wants.

[Mel_13]

You pay Tim Duncan...period.

Exactly.

he is already on a loyalty contract

Not true.


C'mon people. There's really only one relevant question in this matter:

Does Tim Duncan want to continue playing beyond the end of this season?

If the answer to that question is yes, then the Spurs will want him and they'll pay him.

http://www.nba.com/spurs/tickets/201..._renewals_home

[100%duncan]

He's not on a loyalty contract, you dumb bas . His initial deal was signed in 2003 and he got the extension in November of 2007...right after the Spurs won a ing championship.

He did it for the team...4 times to be exact...so your spoiled ass could still be a fan. He gets whatever he wants.

yeah how can that brainfart call it a loyalty contract just after spurs won the ing le. Bene is right. He is TIM ING DUNCAN. PAY HIM.

[TDMVPDPOY]

He's not on a loyalty contract, you dumb bas . His initial deal was signed in 2003 and he got the extension in November of 2007...right after the Spurs won a ing championship.

He did it for the team...4 times to be exact...so your spoiled ass could still be a fan. He gets whatever he wants.

then what do you call the 40m contract extention his currently on? if that aint a loyalty contract, then what is it?

heres his career nba salary
1997-98 $2,967,840
1998-99 $3,413,000
1999-00 $3,858,240 rookie deal expire
2000-01 $9,660,000 signs 30/3 extention
2001-02 $10,865,250
2002-03 $12,072,500
2003-04 $12,676,125 signs max deal
2004-05 $14,260,641
2005-06 $15,845,156
2006-07 $17,429,672
2007-08 $19,014,188
2008-09 33 $20,598,704
2009-10 34 $22,183,220 signs 2 year extention 40/2
2010-11 35 $18,700,000
2011-12 36 $21,300,000

[Mel_13]

then what do you call the 40-50m contract extention his currently on?

Do you even read the posts that you quote?

You'll find the answer to your question there.

[temujin]

I love how fans are outraged if Duncan adds a "mere" 15M, and not the 38M "he deserves" to the 150M he must have earned in his career.

He could probably buy the Spurs, by now, so that's not even wealth redistribution.

I wonder how many of these fans are making more than 0.05 M per year.

[jag]

Someone who might not be fine with Spurs giving that much money to Duncan, is Parker. When he signed his extension a year ago, a reason why he didn't try to get as much money as possible was to allow Spurs to sign new players. If Spurs use that extra money to give $13M for a 39 years old Duncan, it will be a big f u to Parker.

Duncan's interests come before Parker's interests.

Parker can get over it.

[jag]

Nah, the trump card is Duncan saying: "Shortchange me and I'll go win a couple championships with the Miami Heat while being a hop, skip and jump away from St. Croix. Meanwhile, Spurs fans will boycott the team like after George Gervin left when they hear how little you offered me to stay despite all those championship trophies I brought to San Antonio."

That, my friend, is game, set and match if Duncan wants to actually negotiate. With that leverage, Duncan basically can get whatever he wants, tbh. If Duncan leaves in a messy way, the franchise value depreciation alone would be a lot more than whatever money the Spurs "save" by letting Duncan walk.

[100%duncan]

then what do you call the 40m contract extention his currently on?

man the answer is on the in question that you in quoted

[jag]

man the answer is on the in question that you in quoted

Easy, brah...

[SenorSpur]

That sounds about right and of course, there's no question that Duncan has been and is worth the money. I'm not so much worried about the Spurs having a ton of cash to throw at potential free agents because we all know that it's highly unlikely the Spurs will be able to lure any to S.A. anyway.

My main concern is them upgrading the talent on the frontline via the draft. Another young, athletic PF/C-type to start working with Duncan is absolutely paramount. At his age, Duncan is still carrying way too much responsibility on both ends and desparately needs the help. In fact, it's hard to believe the Spurs have gone this long with this glaring deficiency.

[Mel_13]

then what do you call the 40m contract extention his currently on? if that aint a loyalty contract, then what is it?

heres his career nba salary
1997-98 $2,967,840
1998-99 $3,413,000
1999-00 $3,858,240 rookie deal expire
2000-01 $9,660,000 signs 30/3 extention
2001-02 $10,865,250
2002-03 $12,072,500
2003-04 $12,676,125 signs max deal
2004-05 $14,260,641
2005-06 $15,845,156
2006-07 $17,429,672
2007-08 $19,014,188
2008-09 33 $20,598,704
2009-10 34 $22,183,220 signs 2 year extention 40/2
2010-11 35 $18,700,000
2011-12 36 $21,300,000

wrong.

Here's the thread about Duncan's extension. You posted five times in that thread. Strange that you're three years off about when it happened.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80437

[TDMVPDPOY]

I love how fans are outraged if Duncan adds a "mere" 15M, and not the 38M "he deserves" to the 150M he must have earned in his career.

the problem is not how much his going to get paid, its whether the amount invested into him is it better spent elsewhere for more pieces to build a contending team....

heres our payroll obligation
Player
11/12 74.6m
12/13 47,312,972 8players excluding duncan + draft picks

timmy, green and neal needs to get paid for 12/13 season...

i was hoping with timmays contract and that turd rj off the books, we be players in FA, but it looks like its going to be gobbled up anyway

[100%duncan]

wrong.

Here's the thread about Duncan's extension. You posted five times in that thread. Strange that you're three years off about when it happened.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80437

[CGD]

That statement in the Harvey article sounded a lot more like his own personal conjecture than anything else...

[Ice009]

There's no doubt he deserves it. I guess what it comes down to is if Tim really wants to win or not. The more cap space they can create the better it will help in getting free agents. If they're going to be over the cap anyway then they may as well pay him 11M.

Why should Tim take a pay cut like that? What happens if Tim does that and all the guys the Spurs sign end up sucking any playing like RJ? I don't think he'd be to happy watching players suck that get payed more than him?

It's not that easy of a decision.

[Johnny RIngo]

Why should Tim take a pay cut like that? What happens if Tim does that and all the guys the Spurs sign end up sucking any playing like RJ? I don't think he'd be to happy watching players suck that get payed more than him?

It's not that easy of a decision.

After watching the Spurs FO waste the rest of Duncan/Ginobili/Parker era by overpaying for RJ/Bonner, I wouldn't take a paycut either. Give TD as much as he wants.

[Leetonidas]

I love Tim but I honestly don't think he deserves 12.8 (to be clear, for his contributions to our franchise/city yes, but as far as production goes, I don't think he'll be worth 12.8)...I'd be happy with 10 or 11 imo, but I can only hope Tim will see that the less he takes the bigger shot we have at getting a max FA this summer once we kick

[dbestpro]

After watching the Spurs FO waste the rest of Duncan/Ginobili/Parker era by overpaying for RJ/Bonner, I wouldn't take a paycut either. Give TD as much as he wants.

Best post in the thread.

[Bruno]

Duncan's interests come before Parker's interests.

Parker can get over it.

It's not whose interest come first, both Duncan and Parker deserves to be respected. A $38M/3 years contract for Duncan doesn't correspond to his market value. It's a reward contract.

I have no problem with giving Duncan a reward contract but it has consequences. The first one is that Spurs FO should come to Parker and tell him "You took a reasonable extension to let us build a compe ive team but instead we rewarded Duncan. If you want to move to a compe ive team, just give us a list of teams you would like to go and we will try to accommodate your wishes.".