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CC was expecting Snookie to testify about health insurance for law students.
where does she find the time to do both of those things while having sex with every swinging on the east coast?
CC was expecting Snookie to testify about health insurance for law students.
foxnews.....
but she has an AGENDA!!!
Why would anyone expect a woman trying to change a policy to not be political?
it's pretty obvious Sandra Fluke has been faking it for three years at Georgetown law, biding her time for the opportunity to promote her cause nationally, distract from Obama's war on religion, and to help him get reelected.
while having one night stands!!!!! !!!!
What Rush said was stupid and uncalled for. Just like Maher and a bunch of others. They're just two sides of the same coin.
This woman has every right to be an activist, and take whatever position she wants. That said, there's no doubt that she had help getting publicity, and that it was political theater. There's nothing illegal or wrong about that. I just get sick of both sides turning everything into a Hollywood production. Actually, what really sickens me is that there are so many people who are swayed by Hollywood productions.
Anybody on the right who can't admit that Rush was a tool for saying those things should just STFU about Bill Maher. But anybody who can't admit that Maher is a tool should STFU about Rush. All the one-sided rightous indignation is the most sickening thing of all. "Hooray for my side, no matter what they do."
BTW - the definition of " "? A woman who will have sex with anyone... except you.
You do realize that FOX Nation is for stupid people, don't you?
No one is saying that. However she isn't just a random 23 yr old student picked at random to speak on the subject. She was a plant. A 30 year old career college student liberal activist who chose Georgetown because they didn't offer contraception in their insurance plan.
The link was a transcript of Bill Oreilly interview. I'm pretty sure you will just say that Bill O is for stupid people. As are people who watch Fox news. As are people who do not watch whatever news program you do.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...3&postcount=21
You have a long list of who is beneath you intelligently. I'm ok with you putting me in that category. However ridiculous your reasoning.
You're going to lose a lot of people using the word "plant". But I'm going to try and read between the lines and say that I understand your point. Going to Georgetown and ing about them not providing contraception is like going to a Muslim school and ing about them putting their call to prayer on a loudspeaker. Totally out of place - totally out of line. She was within her rights, but only because you can't legislate common sense. Yeah, they picked a place that would be opposed to the idea on principle, so they could get the maximum resistance and publicity. And, yes, she probably had the backing and support of some group, or political party. Like I said, it's political theater. Just don't make too big a deal out of the fact that it was organized. People are allowed to do that in this country. And I wouldn't screw that up, no matter how much I don't like the message. By all means, expose it. People who don't like political theater might be turned off by that. But don't act like they did something wrong.
BTW - didn't it bother you when Rush started talking about her filiming her sex acts so that we could all watch? I mean, didn't that strike you as just creepy? I don't care who she was affiliated with, I'm not going to pretend like that was a normal thing to say. I'm not with the idiots who want to put him off the air for it. I think he serves a purpose, but he sure as doesn't represent me with that kind of weirdness.
I stopped reading right about there.
You're going to lose a lot of people using the word "plant". But I'm going to try and read between the lines and say that I understand your point. Going to Georgetown and ing about them not providing contraception is like going to a Muslim school and ing about them putting their call to prayer on a loudspeaker. Totally out of place - totally out of line. She was within her rights, but only because you can't legislate common sense. Yeah, they picked a place that would be opposed to the idea on principle, so they could get the maximum resistance and publicity. And, yes, she probably had the backing and support of some group, or political party. Like I said, it's political theater. Just don't make too big a deal out of the fact that it was organized. People are allowed to do that in this country. And I wouldn't screw that up, no matter how much I don't like the message. By all means, expose it. People who don't like political theater might be turned off by that. But don't act like they did something wrong.
BTW - didn't it bother you when Rush started talking about her filiming her sex acts so that we could all watch? I mean, didn't that strike you as just creepy? I don't care who she was affiliated with, I'm not going to pretend like that was a normal thing to say. I'm not with the idiots who want to put him off the air for it. I think he serves a purpose, but he sure as doesn't represent me with that kind of weirdness.
So, you condone Rush's remarks then?
Even if your conspiracy theory is true, and it is a sneaky Obama administration trick, she deserves everything Rush said?
Yes or no will do.
Here's the problem, Random. Under le X, any of the women at Georgetown could get free contraception at a nearby clinic - for free. That should tell you that there's more to the story.
These people, on both sides, manipulate us by twisting everything into some kind of confrontation of extremes. It's always a "war on women" or a "war on religion". I'm pretty sick of the bull from both sides.
The Catholic Church doesn't believe in birth control - that's their right. If someone who has their insurance needs birth control pills for some other medical purpose, no one in the church or university wants to deny them. But it can't come as any surprise when they want to verify the medical need. NOBODY is naive enough to think that they wouldn't ask the related questions. It comes with the territory. For that matter, I have to answer a load of questions to my insurance company, on a fairly regular basis. It comes with that territory, too.
Let's be honest - Ms. Fluke's testimony was disingenuous. And it's highly unlikely that this became a flashpoint at this particular time by accident. These issues would all be a lot easier to work out without all the fake moral outrage on both sides.
Edit: THIS, for example, is utter bull .
“We did not expect that women would be told in the national media that we should have gone to school elsewhere. “And even if that meant going to a less prestigious university, we refuse to pick between a quality education and our health. And we resent that in the 21st century, anyone think it’s acceptable to ask us to make this choice simply because we are women.
NO ONE actually believes that, by paying tuition and attending a school, they should expect to be able to force a religious ins ution to change their long-held beliefs. NO ONE. And there are other prestigious schools that are not Catholic ins utions. There is no forced choice "between a quality education and their health". She is just as full of as Rush. Rip 'em both, or leave 'em both alone.
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I'm not trying to act like they did anything wrong. It was pretty filthy of rush to do that. I do like listening to rush. I listen to it as entertainment. like a muscle magazine who have to come up with new ways to work out muscles every month, I realize he has to fill a three hour slot every day. When he goes too far I'll go see what Rome is talking about.
most citizens who testify before congress are not picked at random. they usually are picked because of their expertise on a subject, or they pe ion to be heard because they have an agenda they are selling. It would be pretty stupid to pick people at random to inform congress about a particular subject.
Yeah, picking people at random to talk to Congress would be pretty stupid. I think what a lot of people object to is that she held herself out as sort of a typical student, and therefore representative of typical students.
What I objected to was that a lot of her testimony was contrived, scripted bull . Congress doesn't need random people talking to them, but it doesn't need that either. I expect people to have an agenda - that's what we're about. But I can do without outright propaganda. People like Boutons who openly say that it's okay to lie, as long as your cause is pure - those people are zealots. And they don't need to be talking to Congress. It's a waste of everyone's time. But, hey, it makes for good headlines.
I've said it before - I don't have patience for that kind of bull , regardless of which side of the political fence it comes from. I call out people on "my side" regularly. Try it sometime. The regular people in this country could work a lot of this out, if not for the hate-filled zealots and headline s.
sounds like any thesis or sales presentation, i.e. what every other person does to get by in life
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