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    getting a PG for 1st rounder would be ing stupid. I don't know how our FO just can't get a big. We got only 4 guys there and I call just 2 of those good.

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    yeah with tjs spine issues he might not play again this season if the spurs panic and dump a first for a backup pg ....FAIL

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    Wasn't the next draft supposed to be loaded with talent? Why would you want to trade your pick for some cheap vet PG?

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    getting a PG for 1st rounder would be ing stupid. I don't know how our FO just can't get a big. We got only 4 guys there and I call just 2 of those good.
    They don't grow on trees. Or better yet, pretend your a rival GM from another team who has a quality bigman to trade. Who do think that rival GM wants from the Spurs? RJ, Boner, Blair, Anderson? Do you think, realistically, that Pop and RJ want ot trade any of the big 3, or promising young players in Leonard, Splitter, Neal to get that big? Yea its frustrating as a fan that the Spurs can't get that bigman easily, but try being realistic in evaluating the Spurs trade prospects.

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    They don't grow on trees. Or better yet, pretend your a rival GM from another team who has a quality bigman to trade. Who do think that rival GM wants from the Spurs? RJ, Boner, Blair, Anderson? Do you think, realistically, that Pop and RJ want ot trade any of the big 3, or promising young players in Leonard, Splitter, Neal to get that big? Yea its frustrating as a fan that the Spurs can't get that bigman easily, but try being realistic in evaluating the Spurs trade prospects.
    Spurs need to be looking for teams looking to dump players (like the RJ trade). That is the type of big they need to target; a big on a team that doesn't make financial sense.

    The real question is if the Spurs are willing to take the financial hit in order to bolster their chances and how much they value cap space (if they have any next season depending on Duncan).

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    Spurs need to be looking for teams looking to dump players (like the RJ trade). That is the type of big they need to target; a big on a team that doesn't make financial sense.

    The real question is if the Spurs are willing to take the financial hit in order to bolster their chances and how much they value cap space (if they have any next season depending on Duncan).
    Just speculating, but I'm sure the FO has/is looking to dump RJ. But I'm not sure Holt wants to take on more salary. I see the Spurs going the cheap route, by picking up a vet waived by his team, and going thru on amestying RJ in the Summer.

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    Wasn't the next draft supposed to be loaded with talent? Why would you want to trade your pick for some cheap vet PG?
    Sure, but what do you really expect at the 27th pick (assuming our record holds)?

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    Do these Spurs first round picks have any actual value and if so, how much? Do a couple first rounders allow you to dump RJ? Will they get you a rotational player? Are they not valuable at all?

    Where is the true value of late first rounders with regards to the Spurs and other teams?
    It's not a first rounder in a vacuum, it's a first rounder in THIS draft. Most of the good players from last year's NCAA stayed put because of the lockout. You essentially have the one and dones and a GREAT class of two and thrus.

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    Sure, but what do you really expect at the 27th pick (assuming our record holds)?
    A George Hill, a chance to move up in the draft, like this past year draft day trade, moving up to get Leonard. given the Spur's FO and especially ther scouting dept., I have faith in the Spurs getting a solid prospect outta of the draft. 1st rounders are too valuable to piss away on a backup pg. imo.

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    It's not a first rounder in a vacuum, it's a first rounder in THIS draft. Most of the good players from last year's NCAA stayed put because of the lockout. You essentially have the one and dones and a GREAT class of two and thrus.
    Ok, how much value does this pick this year have? Enough to entice a team to take RJ? Enough to where a team will give you a rotational player for a lesser player? No real value?

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    a first round draft pick for a backup point guard would be a horrific trade. Even if tj ford is out for the season, i'd much rather the spurs go with neal and ginobili behind parker than waste a first round pick on a player who pop probably won't even trust come playoff time.
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    It's entirely possible the Spurs are not looking for a vet PG and just said that for the of it. Maybe it's another weak smokescreen? Maybe they just like screwing with the EN? I think this report can't be taken too seriously because the Spurs just about never reveal their intentions this directly.

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    A first round draft pick for a backup point guard would be a horrific trade. Even if TJ Ford is out for the season, I'd much rather the Spurs go with Neal and Ginobili behind Parker than waste a first round pick on a player who Pop probably won't even trust come playoff time.
    Exactly. And not only would I, like you, rather they just go with Neal and Ginobili in tandem if Ford is out, but Pop obviously would too, as evidenced by them not bringing in a veteran when Ginobili and Ford were out for an extended stretch. I've said for the past few years that I'm all for trading the 1st round pick, but it's got to be to acquire the type of PF they need. They've got four guards that can make plays, which is more than enough.

    As I said yesterday, I think the best that can be hoped for is that they sign Diaw, quickly get him into shape, he fits in fairly seamlessly, they start him and Leonard, use Green as the backup three and drop Jefferson from the rotation. I actually think all but the last one has got a realistic chance of happening.

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    Ok, how much value does this pick this year have? Enough to entice a team to take RJ? Enough to where a team will give you a rotational player for a lesser player? No real value?
    I can't really tell you the value around the league, because there are a lot of teams that have totally whack ideas of NBA player value. I can tell you that in a draft like this, you might see late/borderline lottery talent players slip into the mid to late 20s. This is going to be a flush draft where we might get Kawhi level talent without doing a thing.

    I also think that with the prospective re-signing of Tim to the amounts speculated, there will be no FA shopping this summer, BUT, SA will be willing to trade RJ and keep that player on the books, since Tim's cut takes them out of tax danger.

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    Ok, how much value does this pick this year have? Enough to entice a team to take RJ? Enough to where a team will give you a rotational player for a lesser player? No real value?
    Only a high lottery pick would entice another team to take on RJ's contract. That or a team would swap their player's bad contract for RJ's, which you mentioned in another post. With Tim needing to be resigned, as well as RJ's albatross of a contract weighing on the Spur's salary cap, the Spurs need that 1st rounder as part of other avenues to improve the team next year imo. I say this, with the opinion that they will not be able to pull off a trade for a bigman prior to the deadline this year.

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    so.. they are not targeting a big. sigh...

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    What sucks is that TJ is a good backup PG but he is made out of glass so you really can't count on him being there when you need him. Then you add to the fact that they drafted CJ who might be ready after starting 2-3 years in the D-Leauge.

    So going into next year we have to replace TJ/RJ/ and hope that we could use Blair/Anderson/CJ to maybe trade up and get a guy we need and maybe add a early second round pick.

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    Wouldnt Aaron Brooks be avaible when China`s season ends ?

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    Wouldnt Aaron Brooks be avaible when China`s season ends ?
    I don't think so.

    He's a restricted free agent and the deadline to sign an offer sheet was March 1st. Even if he was available, the Spurs would be able to make an offer that Phoenix wouldn't match.

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    It's logical that Spurs want more depth at PG. Ford is so injury prone and Joseph is so bad. TJ Ford retiring is too a possibility. Spurs could also need him as salary filler in a trade.

    Saying that, giving up a first round pick for that backup PG would be dumb because the Neal/Ginobili backcourt should be fine. The vet PG added could be more a third stringer than a true backup.

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    The article is Monroe's obligatory trade deadline piece. He looks back at past deadline moves and near-moves and speculates as to what the Spurs might do this year.

    I'm surprised at how many here believe this article offers some insight based on inside information. It's pure speculation and nothing more.

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    JA + TJ = Earl Watson. Spurs easily could give them rights to Bertrans/Hanga if they like.

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    We have the best record in the conference last season then our best player breaks his arm, We then lose to a superhot grizzly team. Why is it so ing surprising to everyone that you lose when your best player doesn't play or has a ing broken arm and can't play to his usual level.

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    We have the best record in the conference last season then our best player breaks his arm, We then lose to a superhot grizzly team. Why is it so ing surprising to everyone that you lose when your best player doesn't play or has a ing broken arm and can't play to his usual level.
    Cause Memphis was also playing without their best player.

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