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http://news.yahoo.com/swiss-voters-r...154505325.html
Links from yahoo news work fine if you stop at the ".html"
The rest behind it is simply cookie information. You would probably be better off not putting it in the URL.
FYI.
The excerpt below the link tells the story. It's about damned time somebody started acting responsibly. If we have to follow someone, it should be the Swiss, and not the Greeks.
http://news.yahoo.com/swiss-voters-r...GVzdAM-;_ylv=3
Who turns down a long vacation? Known for their work ethic, Swiss citizens appear to be leading the way on European austerity, rejecting a minimum six weeks paid holiday a year.
Switzerland counted ballots Sunday for five national referendums, including one pushed by a union to raise the minimum holiday from four weeks to the standard used in Germany, Italy, Russia and other European nations. Some of the nation's 26 cantons (states) also held voting on local measures to deal with everything from demonstrators to pros utes.
The Swiss heeded warnings from government and business that more vacation would raise labor costs and put the economy at risk. Swiss public broadcaster SSR said two-thirds of voters and all of the cantons had rejected the measure, which required majority approval of all federal and cantonal voters.
"In rejecting the initiative, citizens have kept a sense of reality," said Hans-Ulrich Bigler, director of the Swiss Union of Arts and Crafts, which represents around 300,000 businesses. The referendum, he said in a statement, could have added 6 billion francs ($6.52 billion) a year in labor costs to the Swiss economy, but the vote "clearly shows that the population continues to focus on individual freedom and responsibility of citizens."
http://news.yahoo.com/swiss-voters-r...154505325.html
Links from yahoo news work fine if you stop at the ".html"
The rest behind it is simply cookie information. You would probably be better off not putting it in the URL.
FYI.
As long as the link works, I really don't care what the text looks like - at least not on a forum like this. Does it really bother you? Serious question - I just wonder why.
so they stick with 5 weeks/year, like all other advanced Euro countries.
Americans work more more for less, stupid s. Now the the VRWC/Repugs' war on the 99%/employees has killed the unions, working Americans will be screwed down more and more, losing salary, benefits, sick time off, etc, etc.
FIFY.
You're as bad as the other moonbat who posts about CIA conspiracies and . This world must be such a scary place for you.
Those countries AREN'T bankrupt, mother er.
America, with its insane, uncivlized 2 weeks year, and longest, lenthening avg work week, has a huge "bankrupt" deficit, so GFY.
I think you missed the point, but that's not really surprising.
There's no reason not to just paste the long URL. There are a couple of good reasons in favor of using it.
1. Editing URL's is an easy way to make an error, and wind up pasting in one that doesn't work.
2. That extra information is not "cookies", no matter what Random says. It's tracking code data. (And no, it's not the "same thing" as a cookie, even though they often have similar purposes.) And that tracking information is based on my original session. Every time someone clicks on one of those URL's, Yahoo logs bogus tracking info, based on that old session. 'em. I can't stop them from creating those tracking URL's, but I can feed them some crap data.
There was no reason for you to post, except to be an obnoxious . If you're gonna be an obnoxious (and you are), you should at least try not to be a stupid obnoxious .
Does that mean we get the cookies if we click on it?
Swiss are a strange country in Europe. They never match anyones idea. People tried to use them as what afghanistan could be. Same with the nationalizing healthcare group. It never works. They are a strange crop. Much like people from Minnesota
"To compete in the market for compulsory health insurance, a Swiss health insurer must be registered with the Swiss Federal Office of Public Health, which regulates health insurance under the 1994 statute. The insurers were not allowed to earn profits from the mandated benefit package, although they have always been able to profit from the sale of actuarially priced supplementary benefits (mainly superior amenities).
Regulations require "a 25-year-old and an 80-year-old individual pay a given insurer the same premium for the same type of policy..Overall, then, the Swiss health system is a variant of the highly government-regulated social insurance systems of Europe..that rely on ostensibly private, nonprofit health insurers that also are subject to uniform fee schedules and myriad government regulations."
The insured pays the insurance premium for the basic plan up to 8% of their personal income. If a premium is higher than this, then the government gives the insured a cash subsidy to pay for any additional premium.
From Wiki.
The Swiss system has some problems, but it also has a lot going for it. The require everyone to pay a portion of their insurance cost - when people have no "skin in the game", they tend not to have any interest in keeping costs down. They also have mechanisms for keeping costs down, built into the system. Believe it or not, a lot of people (like myself) who object to Obamacare don't want poor people to die. I object to it because, without some of the provisions to limit costs, it will absolutely bankrupt us. There's definitely a problem, but Obamacare is the wrong solution.
Here's one thing they don't mention about the Swiss system, ElNono. They claim that there is no rationing of care. And to an extent, that is true. If a doctor decides that a test or a procedure is necessary, it is going to get paid for. BUT - if an insurance company decides that a doctor is giving out too many prescriptions, or doing too many tests, the insurance company can force the doctor to re-pay them. So, what happens? The doctor becomes reluctant to write prescriptions, or recommend tests. It's rationing, in a different form. They don't like to call it that, but that's what it is.
In some systems, the doctor recommends treatment and the patient has to wait to get it. In the Swiss system, the doctor just may not recommend the treatment to begin with. The end result is still the same, whether you call it rationing or not.
Another thing people don't like to mention - out of pocket healthcare spending in Switzerland, even with the attempts to control costs, is about 50% per patient higher than in the United States. There's no free lunch.
If the Obamacare option was as good as they claim, they wouldn't have had to front-load the benefits, and back-load the costs. When the real bills come due, this administration will be long gone. I'm surpised more people from the left aren't bothered by that part.
I agree about the skin in the game comment. What I don't like about Obamacare is that it only addressed access, but it didn't address cost. So it's a turd. I do think it might be better than what we had before, but it's still a turd.
As far as the Swiss, the "pseudo-rationing" part must be working well for them. They actually have a higher life expectancy than the US right now, and they only spend 10% of their GDP on healthcare. And if you don't like the service and have the money, you can purchase a private policy that covers what you want it to cover.
An hybrid system like that is what I would like to see here. You can get private catastrophic insurance with a high deductible since basic care would be taken care of.
The important part is that it provides a safety net of basic care for everyone (with or without pre-existing conditions) that includes prevention which is capped to a percentage of the income (price control). It's not risk-based, and lets people rest assured they're not going bankrupt if they fracture a leg or some such event that only requires a standard treatment and might include hospitalization and surgery.
"it didn't address cost"
... because those costs are health care industry profits.
Like any huge industry, health care knows how to protect and increase its profits by bribing Congressmen.
The real problem is the relentlessly increasing costs, typically way above inflation, with little or no increase in medical outcomes.
As we see in Repug TX, the only approach to cutting costs of govt-assisted health care payments that is "serious" is denying care and/or shifting the costs (not reducing them) to the Human-Americans, mostly poor, young, old, unemployed.
The health care industry sucks more $Ts out of H-A pockets than the banksters. $15K/year for a family of four, predicted to be well over $20K/year by 2020.
There is no solution, since the healthcare industry is just another owner of the political system at national and state levels.
I agree completely with everything in this post. This is what I feel was Obama's biggest failure, and the best example of his weak leadership. He tracked to the right repeatedly in an effort to get the right to talk to him about a compromised healthcare plan. Then, when it became obvious that they weren't going to talk to him at all, he didn't track back to the left (and give us a public option). He just had them pass whatever crap was last suggested to the republicans.
Oh and LOL bankrupt Euros. Germany requires 4 weeks paid leave, plus 9+ holidays = Strongest economy in eurozone. Switzerland requires almost 5 weeks paid vacation = AAA rating.
down here is also 4 weeks paid leave excluding public holidays and sick days...if u add those excludidng days its like 6 weeks man...if ur part of the union and work in blue colar jobs? lol the perks and benefits is better then the office worker...
oh yeh ladies down here also get 6months maternity paid leave whatever salary they are on
you ing bankrupted Euro.down here is also 4 weeks paid leave excluding public holidays and sick days...if u add those excludidng days its like 6 weeks man...if ur part of the union and work in blue colar jobs? lol the perks and benefits is better then the office worker...
oh yeh ladies down here also get 6months maternity paid leave whatever salary they are on
lol australia manwelfare state
lol australia man
Lol Facetious man
Still, if you have that much mandated paid vacation, there is no other explanation than that you are a bunch of lazy s living off the hard work of others.
, I bet you even hang out with your family every once in a while. ing s .
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