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    I like Biedrins for y Jeff. Biedrins is still young and I bet he's coachable. Nothing to lose, do it.
    Ahh ya forgot about that one. I don't know if Holt would agree to give up on any chance of amnestying but the team could defenitely use Biedrins' size (as long as Pop uses him) and losing RJ is addition by subtraction, so it's a win-win all the way around.

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    Ahh ya forgot about that one. I don't know if Holt would agree to give up on any chance of amnestying but the team could defenitely use Biedrins' size (as long as Pop uses him) and losing RJ is addition by subtraction, so it's a win-win all the way around.
    But it leaves a big hole at small forward, with Kawhi being the only one on the team, it will also guarantee more playing time for ty green.

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    But it leaves a big hole at small forward, with Kawhi being the only one on the team, it will also guarantee more playing time for ty green.
    How do you figure Green isn't at least capable of backing up Leonard after he started and had several good games... that's just irrational hate tbh.

    Pop still has Anderson too as I recall. That's plenty of bodies behind Leonard.

    Even if I play devil's advocate and agree with your stupidity, addressing the teams' lack of size is by far the bigger of the two issues to have. If Pop ignores this problem, it's almost a certainty that other teams are going to hammer away at this weakness in the playoffs, thus Duncan will almost certainly get run down quickly (since Pop refuses to play Tiago with him) and we can expect this team's ceiling will be folding somewhere in the 2nd round.

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    How do you figure Green isn't at least capable of backing up Leonard after he started and had several good games... that's just irrational hate tbh.

    Pop still has Anderson too as I recall. That's plenty of bodies behind Leonard.

    Even if I play devil's advocate and agree with your stupidity, addressing the teams' lack of size is by far the bigger of the two issues to have. If he doesn't, it's almost a certainty that other teams are going to hammer away at this weakness in the playoffs, Duncan will almost certainly become run down quickly (since Pop refuses to play Tiago with him) and we can expect this team's ceiling will be folding somewhere in the 2nd round.
    Irrational hate, sorry but any rational person would realize Danny green is trash & deserves 10-15 mins at most of playing time, I see the Price & Lopez trade being more realistic & more beneficial. It gives the Spurs a serviceable 7 footer to come off the bench & a decent backup pg. And come play off time if we manage to pull off a miracle and play the thunder who's gonna guard Durant, if Leonard is in foul trouble? Danny Green? Don't be stupid.

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    timvp,

    I noticed that you didn't include any point guards as rumored. So is it your contention that the Spurs will not pursue a pg or that it isn't the primary need for this Spurs team?
    I think they need to sign another point guard. But I just don't see a trade that really makes sense that involves a point guard. The available point guards are either overpaid or aren't much better than what's available on the open market.

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    Irrational hate, sorry but any rational person would realize Danny green is trash & deserves 10-15 mins at most of playing time, I see the Price & Lopez trade being more realistic & more beneficial. It gives the Spurs a serviceable 7 footer to come off the bench & a decent backup pg. And come play off time if we manage to pull off a miracle and play the thunder who's gonna guard Durant, if Leonard is in foul trouble? Danny Green? Don't be stupid.
    If Leonard was a foul prone guy I might lend some credence to your concern. But he's not. In fact, he commits the fewest fouls of any player in the league.

    And even if I play devil's advocate again, I'd just tell you that if George Hill could handle guarding Durant, then the bigger Danny Green I'm sure can do it too.

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    If Leonard was a foul prone guy I might lend some credence to your concern. But he's not. In fact, he commits the fewest fouls of any player in the league.

    And even if I play devil's advocate again, I'd just tell you that if George Hill could handle guarding Durant, then the bigger Danny Green I'm sure can do it too.
    With the way they call fouls for Durant left & right, I doubt you can justifiably say Leonard will never be in foul trouble against him. And the bold really just shows how stupid you are.

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    I think the Lopez and Price trade will be very big to us but then again, Pop's not doing anything this week

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    With the way they call fouls for Durant left & right, I doubt you can justifiably say Leonard will never be in foul trouble against him. And the bold really just shows how stupid you are.
    So you're calling Pop stupid too? I'm guessing George Hill didn't just decide to check himself into the games and start guarding him.

    Anyway, Durant is not a bruising guy who is going to bully guys in the paint or post up on the low block, his game is out on the perimeter facing up and working his way in to the basket that way. Any guy with decent length and quickness can stay in front of him, the problem is he can shoot over damn near everybody so it really doesn't matter. That's why Hill was able to do it, he has length and quickness. So does Leonard. So does Green. Really doesn't matter, none of those guys are going to bother Durant's shot, although Leonard probably has the best chance out of the 3.

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    I like the Lopez and Hickson deals.. Hickson is a great young talent and should be a good fit here IMO. People forget he practically averaged 14 and 9 for the Cavs last year in less than 30 minutes a game. Lopez would be nice as it gives us another big body, good defender, and he can finish at the rim like Splitter.

    And I'm all for any trade that ships RJ's ass outta SA, so the Biedrins deal is good too.

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    You're an idiot for thinking just because dumb ass Pop puts George on Durant, means that he can guard him. And the way Leonard played defense on Durant, here was very physical which is why I'd caution trading RJ away because he's the only other viable defender on Durant. Unless we get a decent SF in Free Agency or another Trade then I'm all for it, but that looks unlikely. And Green's not very a smart player, he bites on fakes all the time & his overall decisions aren't very good, which is why putting him into defend the other teams best perimeter player isn't very smart.

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    I like Biedrins for y Jeff. Biedrins is still young and I bet he's coachable. Nothing to lose, do it.
    I like that too!

    would we still be able to amnestize (yeah, thats the proper spelling) Biedrins, if we want to later? (not sure if the contract just had to be active prior to this season, or if it also has to be with the team it was signed)

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    I like that too!

    would we still be able to amnestize (yeah, thats the proper spelling) Biedrins, if we want to later? (not sure if the contract just had to be active prior to this season, or if it also has to be with the team it was signed)
    No, won't be able to, which makes such a deal highly unlikely. It seems like the Spurs value the potential available cap space very highly, but we'll see what happens tomorrow by the trade deadline, it'd prob be a very good indication of their future plans.

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    Minn is a likely trade partner. They have some good trade targets.

    timvp: You see nothing possible trading with Minn ?

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    Robin Lopez is overrated here at ST it seems.

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    We all know a trade won't happen. This is SA

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    We all know a trade won't happen. This is SA

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    Timvp, what about the possibility of getting anthony randolph from T'wolves?

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    4. Gustavo Ayon

    for James Anderson, cash, a first round pick and a second round pick
    Make it happen R.C.

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    I'd like Gustavo Ayon, but he's not worth Anderson, cash, a first, and a 2nd.

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    Now that Anderson is pretty much officially a bust, spurs can't give up any first round picks. We need to keep hoping we get draft lucky

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    Minn is a likely trade partner. They have some good trade targets.

    timvp: You see nothing possible trading with Minn ?
    None of the players the T'Wolves are shopping really make sense. Anthony Randolph isn't a horrible idea but he's still a couple years away from being ready to help a contender. With that in mind, he's much more valuable to an up-and-coming team than a win-now team like the Spurs.

    Players like Beasley, Ellington, W. Johnson and Webster aren't enough of a fit for the Spurs to give up their few assets.

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    I'd prefer Randolph, but I'd guess it's probable that the t-wolves don't work with the spurs on a deal

    Say what you want, but I think this trade works for both teams. The advantage to the spurs is that they get more athletic with this trade and the warriors get consistent offensive players with decent contracts (Jefferson - Biedrins is a wash)

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=7ykpd3d

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    yeah alot of these just dont seem realistic alot of these guys are future rotation guys no one wants james bust anderson and a low first rounder

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    I don't think the Spurs will trade for a big man. It's very simple if they acquire a bigman who's out of the rotation? Pop is only going to play a 4 bigman rotation at most. I don't see him giving up his love for Bonner. He also doesn't want to hurt Blair's feelings. If he stopped playing Splitter people would call him out on it.

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