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Supposedly crazy deep.
It's lottery protected. So if we miss the playoffs this year we keep the pick. Otherwise, Golden State gets it.
Supposedly crazy deep.
The savings for the club and for Holt is a good thing. However, I still lament the loss of 1st round pick, in what will undoubtedly be a very deep draft. Unless the Spurs can somehow package their way back into the draft, the only chance of getting a young big now is via free agency.
It's lottery protected for this year + the next two, but it's moot. Spurs aren't missing the playoffs.
This move (the trading of the pick) actually saves the Spurs more than the 12M on the surface (RJ's additional year + TJ) as it eliminates guaranteed 1st rounder money as well since they don't have the pick.
timvp: You really think there is a chance the Spurs traded for Jax and don't play him at least as much as RJ? Would that not be a locker room nightmare?
Lorbek?
We sold a 25+ draft pick for 10M.
If it will haunt us in that case, i wonder how it will.
Maybe its the word of mouth about the 2012 draft class. I mean I don't follow college b-ball whatsoever and even I'm aware that its one of the deeper drafts in recent years.
However, if I'm not mistake, the draft is top heavy right? Meaning that in general the top 15 rea likely to be high potential prospect but theres a drop off towards the end?
If thats the case I'm fine with giving up the 1st rounder.
Yeah but Spurs woudl have save more money by including JA. Pop somewhat still count on JA.
You're right about the draft chatter, but many pundits have cooled on the talent in this class. I for one don't think a pick that late (Spurs 27th) is that valuable in any draft. In fact, buying the 31st pick might even be better.
TimVP what you know about that wood wheel
after all it comes down to this:
Jax in--> fanfav which gives us a better outsideshot at making a deep run...he may not be better than but he will be at his best in the playoffs
RJ out--> saves us a lot of money, but we loose the ability to amnestize him in order to create capspace...but IMHO: who thinks, we are real players in free agency? I dont see someone nice coming to us in 2012 anyway.
Pick out-->yeah, the Spurs are strong at scouting, but a) that tells us, that they probably dont see anyone special in the range of 20-30...b) they might be able to get a pick if they really want one by trading Green or Blair this summer...c) its not like there is a big difference for the Spurs between picking 20-30 or in the second round
How much $$ we are talkin ? 300k or more ? So 300k for players who could be usefull, who could give some rest to our guard isnt that much price.
I still think JA is going to be apart of the future plans still, but not picking up his option was kinda odd.
It's quite possible that the Spurs tried to include JA but GS said no due to the additional 500K.
The Warriors lose so much money in this trade you'd think the Spurs had to throw in cash. But haven't heard that yet.
I'm still in shock. I just checked the web a few minutes ago and was amazed to see this trade came down. Jax is back in town. Go figure.
It's a shame the first rounder had to go, but it's not a huge deal. This draft isn't nearly as deep as many originally thought and I'm not sure that pick would have made nearly the impact most here seem to think.
Tossing in TJ Ford was a nice move that saved some cash. Perhaps most amazing is that James Anderson survived the deadline. Interesting...
All and all, I love this trade. The Spurs saved a ton of cash by dumping RJ (and TJ for that matter) - something like 12M. Jax is infinitely better than Jefferson and Ford wasn't going to play ever again. And to top it all off, the Spurs maintain their ability to amnesty a player not named Richard Jefferson. I personally would be in favor of amnestying Matt Bonner in due time, but thats just me.
How often can you make a trade that both saves you money and makes you better?
I hit the 3 like Steve Jackson, say my name and watch ya reaction!
Don't see why they throw in TJ when not needed financially to make the trade work if they are paying cash.
Monroe_SA By including @tj_ford in jefferson-Jax deal #Spurs have cleared some salary to saign potential buyout player(s); Diaw? Kaman?
$500K more in luxury tax and about $200K more in remaining salary.
http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/120315_jackson
Spurs Obtain Stephen Jackson from Warriors
Difference between TJ's and JA's contract is $550k this year. It's not inconsequential at this stage.
Of course TJ's contract was a salary dump waiting to happen, but what's even weirder is that the Spurs haven't picked JA's option, so it didn't make a difference, unless the Spurs are counting on JA at some point before the end of the season.
manuginobili I enjoyed playing w RJ for +2ys. Great teammate & player. WeŽll miss him in the locker room.
and i wonder where he gets his inside information from
It saves on the luxury tax.
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