Spurs interested in Anthony Carter

[Bruno]

A lot of good points by timvp. Given how weak the PG free agent market is, Spurs can't be picky.

[timvp]

Fisher is interesting but I don't like the fit as much. While he's probably a better shooter, neither player is that much of a shooter nowadays. Fisher is clutch but how often would he take clutch shots while with the Spurs? If he is in the game late, then something has already gone horribly wrong.

Furthermore, I don't see Fisher signing somewhere that doesn't guarantee him at least a backup role. IMO, Neal is likely better than Fisher at this point. It'd suck to get stuck with Fisher if he's a downgrade from Neal.

Carter is a much better defender than Fisher. Carter also is better at defending shooting guards.

Both don't need the ball and both are tough. Fisher is even tougher than Carter, in fact. Though I'd say Carter is the better passer.

Fisher is a safe choice and has the higher ceiling but the fit just isn't there. The only way he's the better fit is if Pop truly doesn't believe Neal is capable of running backup point guard come playoff time.

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I wouldn't say it's painful. Roger Mason Jr. was painful. It's frustrating watching him miss so many open teammates, but he's not booting the ball off his foot, and he is able to hit shots. I simply don't expect him to be consistenly able to do that against playoff teams where quality of shot becomes much more important.

I really like Neal, and I think he's playing great. I know I've said that, but I wanted to continue to make that clear. He's done as much as anyone could reasonably expect in that fill-in role. It is, however, just a fill-in role. If the Spurs can't get Carter, I'll settle for the starting point guard for the third best team in the western conference as my backup.

[timvp]

I still don't feel Neal is nor should be the PG. Its painful to watch when Parker heads to the bench.

As painful as it is to watch, the Spurs offense has been great with Neal running the point. Splitter specifically has thrived with Neal.

[Leetonidas]

Where is Gilbert Arenas these days?

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As painful as it is to watch, the Spurs offense has been great with Neal running the point. Splitter specifically has thrived with Neal.

With Neal on the floor or with Neal running the point? Splitter's the one I see him missing the most often.

[timtonymanu]

Eh. Wouldn't mind if he signs here.

[T Park]

I wouldn't say it's painful. Roger Mason Jr. was painful. It's frustrating watching him miss so many open teammates, but he's not booting the ball off his foot, and he is able to hit shots. I simply don't expect him to be consistenly able to do that against playoff teams where quality of shot becomes much more important.

I really like Neal, and I think he's playing great. I know I've said that, but I wanted to continue to make that clear. He's done as much as anyone could reasonably expect in that fill-in role. It is, however, just a fill-in role. If the Spurs can't get Carter, I'll settle for the starting point guard for the third best team in the western conference as my backup.

Amen bravo.

I personally trust Derek Fisher in a playoff game in a tight third quarter more than Anthony Carter. When Tiago has the ball gets doubled and throws it out, who do I want catching and shooting, Anthony Carter? Or Derek Fisher?

Ill take Derek Fisher, IMO, cold beer,

[T Park]

Where is Gilbert Arenas these days?

At home where he belongs.

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Where is Gilbert Arenas these days?

If Arenas had ever been a point guard, I'd wonder why you asked.

[DPG21920]

Why would Fisher or Carter be in the game at that point, Park?

[timvp]

With Neal on the floor or with Neal running the point? Splitter's the one I see him missing the most often.

With Neal running the point, Splitter stats are really good. He misses Splitter a lot but he also finds him a lot

Splitter commented recently then when he's in with Neal running point guard, teams tend to ignore him because they are worried about Neal shooting the ball. Probably some truth behind that.

[Muser]

People need to stop saying Fisher is clutch so we should sign him. Late game Parker/Ginobili/Jackson or Leonard/Duncan/Splitter or Bonner depending on situation will be the final lineup.

As for Carter i'd like him as a 3rd string PG.

[T Park]

With Neal on the floor or with Neal running the point? Splitter's the one I see him missing the most often.

Yup. His drives to the basket are just horrible. He belongs camped at the three, shoot a three or fake and stop and pop.

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Clutch this, tough that aside, I don't want either of them shooting. I'm perfectly happy if the Spurs get Fish or Carter and they never score a point. I want them running plays for other people and controlling the pace of the game, something that only a true point guard can do.

Obligatory Gary Neal praise a given, those of you that don't remember how good Mason was before he was made the backup point guard and how terrible he was afterward would be well-served to study up. It's great for all of us that the same thing hasn't happened to Gary Neal, but really, why push your luck?

It basically boils down to this: The Spurs have more than one area of need, and backup point guard is one of those. Unless getting one of those guys impedes the team's ability to pick up a big, why would you NOT want the Spurs to do it?

[baseline bum]

Hahaha... Ghost comes back for a blast from the past with Jack and now he gets another one with Harper, err... Carter.

[Imp23]

He's good for D in limited mins. I heard he still lives here.

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With Neal running the point, Splitter stats are really good. He misses Splitter a lot but he also finds him a lot

Splitter commented recently then when he's in with Neal running point guard, teams tend to ignore him because they are worried about Neal shooting the ball. Probably some truth behind that.

I'm sure there's a lot of truth behind that. Unfortunately, that's the first thing to go when you're playing a team seven times in a row because they watch film and figure out your tendencies. Neal provides too many good things for this team to allow opponents to be able to take any part of it away, which means making a small move to have a second/third string point guard. , if the Spurs do that, it's not like they HAVE to stop giving Neal time at the point, it just means they aren't stuck with it if the league suddenly figures out how to stop it.

[T Park]

People need to stop saying Fisher is clutch so we should sign him. Late game Parker/Ginobili/Jackson or Leonard/Duncan/Splitter or Bonner depending on situation will be the final lineup.

As for Carter i'd like him as a 3rd string PG.

If you sign Fisher, Bonner would never see the end of a game.

It would be Manu, Jackson, Duncan, Fisher, Parker.

I'd be ecstatic with that.

[timvp]

Hahaha... Ghost comes back for a blast from the past with Jack and now he gets another one with Harper, err... Carter.

Anthony Harper. Good Times.

And hey, technically Carter was a Spur only in 2003. He fits with the Jack flashback.

[T Park]

I'm sure there's a lot of truth behind that. Unfortunately, that's the first thing to go when you're playing a team seven times in a row because they watch film and figure out your tendencies. Neal provides too many good things for this team to allow opponents to be able to take any part of it away, which means making a small move to have a second/third string point guard. , if the Spurs do that, it's not like they HAVE to stop giving Neal time at the point, it just means they aren't stuck with it if the league suddenly figures out how to stop it.

I've been gone so long me and you are in 100% agreement on everything today.

Damn Mayans.

[cd98]

The reality is that Ginoboli, when Parker isn't in the game, is really the point guard on offense. Jackson is sorta the same, except with a lot more turnovers.

[timvp]

If you sign Fisher, Bonner would never see the end of a game.

It would be Manu, Jackson, Duncan, Fisher, Parker.

I'd be ecstatic with that.

Two point guard, two shooting guards and a power forward?

That's taking small ball to the ultimate extreme. That lineup would never get a rebound, tbh.

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The reality is that Ginoboli, when Parker isn't in the game, is really the point guard on offense. Jackson is sorta the same, except with a lot more turnovers.

That's fair. The reality is that you're going to have time where one of them isn't on the floor. Signing a point guard is preferable to bringing Manu off the bench, regardless of what recent Spurs history has taught you.

[MaNu4Tres]

If you sign Fisher, Bonner would never see the end of a game.

It would be Manu, Jackson, Duncan, Fisher, Parker.

I'd be ecstatic with that.

Eww.

I'd prefer Splitter, Duncan, Jax, Manu, TP.. tbh.

Fisher would be the 12th best player on the active roster tbh..