What is Tim Duncan's religion?

[underdawg]

Yes, by inventing bull stories to appease the mentally lazy. Don't act like religion is the therapist for the down trodden. It's a tool to fleece the out of them.
Because it's easily exposed for the fraud it is and doubt sets in (good old doubt,the real savior of the world). Imagine saying that in a product presentation "you can ask questions, but they must be limited".
Can you spin this any more than you have? Here's what you just said in every day lingo:

The other requires make believe as an excuse when the answer isn't known, and we don't even know if it can be known.
Unless the Bible is morphing, it's not changing. You can adopt a neo-theist view all you like, it doesn't bail you out.

Models don't need to change. New models are created. What you call "new evidence" often leads to huge changes in how we see things.

How that Ark hunt going?

So Christians are lazy minded, gullible suckers - the hate is strong in you young jedi.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It makes no sense to you cause you really don't understand religion and/or Christianity.

maybe not your brand. i was brought up in a very literal fundamentalist home. i understand probably better than you think.

[pgardn]

Twist away my friend.

Turn a blind eye to why you believe what you believe.

Never self examine and, never get in the deep end.

[pgardn]

Yes, by inventing bull stories to appease the mentally lazy. Don't act like religion is the therapist for the down trodden. It's a tool to fleece the out of them.

One way to look at it. Clearly it has been used this way. I would say another is to give comfort.


Because it's easily exposed for the fraud it is and doubt sets in (good old doubt,the real savior of the world). Imagine saying that in a product presentation "you can ask questions, but they must be limited".
Can you spin this any more than you have? Here's what you just said in every day lingo:

Science answers questions that can be validated through testing. So you think all human questioning ends here? Are you joking? Is it wrong to take anothers life? Do you think people asking questions of morality have only Science to guide them? get outa town...

The other requires make believe as an excuse when the answer isn't known, and we don't even know if it can be known.
Unless the Bible is morphing, it's not changing. You can adopt a neo-theist view all you like, it doesn't bail you out.

Yes, I wrote the supernatural. Call it what you want.

The bible has already changed dozens and dozens of times. When new stuff is dug up, someone has got to determine how it fits in. And even if the Bible never did change, it is interpreted through lenses of that time period. If you cant see this I cant help you. People of faith might argue this last point, I say your sticking your head in the sand if you dont think current times influence religious thought through the bible.

Models don't need to change. New models are created. What you call "new evidence" often leads to huge changes in how we see things.

Now you are really nit picking. There are plenty of models both in the biological sciences and the physical sciences that have been modified which is the same thing as new models using old models and their underpinnings. Some models were just flat out bad, and brand new models created.

How that Ark hunt going?

Not good at all. I have never been hunting.

I think you were very tired when you read what I wrote. At least I hope so.

[Blake]

Lucifer obviously had free will to rebel against God - not sure where you're going here?

It wasn't Lucifer's stupidity - it was his vanity. Man has proven to vain throughout most of humanity regardless of their intelligence.

Lucifer is a dumb to want over heaven. Or as DMC pointed out, heaven must not be that great.

I'm still wondering why a God of love would create a fiery torture chamber for non-believers.

[Blake]

What difference does it make to you, you don't believe in God or Satan right?

Not much, but I like these type of threads though.

What difference does it make to you why I'm posting in this thread?

[Blake]

Yes, I know. But it's hard to resist answering or replying to a lot of people that talk a lot of BS.

Agreed

[Blake]

Can you give an example of "new information" that clashes with dogma?

How old do you believe the Earth is?

[Blake]

those are all temporal things. Let's focus on true value.

Like what?

[Blake]

totally agree with the 'fire and brimstone' motivation many preachers use. As far as the other consider that the earth we now live in is nothing like it used to be. Man's decisions have changed it dramatically. We have free will and that free will has changed the world.

The implication again being that there is no free will in heaven because God is scared our free will will change it dramatically?

[all_heart]

How old do you believe the Earth is?

ALOT older than a few thousand years.

[all_heart]

maybe not your brand. i was brought up in a very literal fundamentalist home. i understand probably better than you think.

You might. Do you believe the Bible should be taken 100% literal - word for word?

[all_heart]

The implication again being that there is no free will in heaven because God is scared our free will will change it dramatically?

There was obviously free will in heaven for Lucifer, he obviously crossed the line. He was a habitual line stepper!

I don't believe God wants a relationship with robots - thus freewill.

[Blake]

You might. Do you believe the Bible should be taken 100% literal - word for word?

Why shouldn't it?

What percent do you feel should be taken literally?

[all_heart]

Why shouldn't it?

What percent do you feel should be taken literally?

Wasn't really asking you, I was asking the fuzzylumpkins, he said he was raised as a literal fundamentalist.

I think you already asked this question and this was covered pages back.

[Blake]

There was obviously free will in heaven for Lucifer, he obviously crossed the line. He was a habitual line stepper!

I don't believe God wants a relationship with robots - thus freewill.

God knew that Lucifer would cross the line, yet created him and any way.

Why does God want to torture the beings he creates?

Why did Satan think he had enough juice to overtake God?

[Blake]

Wasn't really asking you, I was asking the fuzzylumpkins, he said he was raised as a literal fundamentalist.

I think you already asked this question and this was covered pages back.

I don't really care who you were asking.

I'm asking you now: what percent do you feel should be taken literally?

[all_heart]

God knew that Lucifer would cross the line, yet created him and any way.

Did he? It was Lucifers choice.

Why does God want to torture the beings he creates?
He doesn't.

Why did Satan think he had enough juice to overtake God?
Because he was vain. You've never felt you compete for 1st place before?

[all_heart]

I don't really care who you were asking.

I'm asking you now: what percent do you feel should be taken literally?

Like I said it was covered pages ago. Don't be lazy, read it.

[Blake]

so you gave a percent before?

I don't see it.

[all_heart]

so you gave a percent before?

I don't see it.

No I didn't, but keep reading.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You might. Do you believe the Bible should be taken 100% literal - word for word?

Thatws what I was taught and not what I believe. I don't believe any of it can be taken literally.

i do believe that you guys taking like virgin births, universal forgiveness, and resurrection literally but then pick others to be open to interpretation is just selfish intellectual laziness. Its a religion of convenience at that point.

I am not talking about the vague either about the asinine nature of the trinity which just reads like that people made up as they went along.

If you even have a tiny notion of the sociology of the area around that time you can understand why they would have every motivation in the world to tell those specific lies about the guy that was their leader.

[Blake]

No I didn't, but keep reading.

Of course you didn't. You don't understand how religion/christianity works.

[all_heart]

Thatws what I was taught and not what I believe. I don't believe any of it can be taken literally.

i do believe that you guys taking like virgin births, universal forgiveness, and resurrection literally but then pick others to be open to interpretation is just selfish intellectual laziness. Its a religion of convenience at that point.

I am not talking about the vague either about the asinine nature of the trinity which just reads like that people made up as they went along.

If you even have a tiny notion of the sociology of the area around that time you can understand why they would have every motivation in the world to tell those specific lies about the guy that was their leader.

blah, blah, blah.... So you are not a believer then. That's all you have to say.

[all_heart]

Of course you didn't. You don't understand how religion/christianity works.

Look in the mirror home boy!