What is Tim Duncan's religion?

[Blake]

I've already addressed this with you - Elijah did not ascend into Heaven by his own power but was taken up in a whirlwind. Christ ascended up into heaven by his own power.

If that's not good enough for you, here are a couple of detailed responses to that very question:

http://www.apologeticspress.org/apco...=6&article=654

This link says the skeptic's claim is unsubstantiated. If so, why the need to address it?

The author really did nothing but spin with guesses, as is usually the case.

http://www.tektonics.org/af/firstascent.html

So Elijah was simply taken up into the sky.....but not Heaven....?

That makes no sense unless you want to start more guessing as to where Old Testament believers go to when they die.

[all_heart]

No. i am saying that the Bible ins utionalized it. I'm sure some in the south still invoke those passages to this day. I do not expect christians to be consistent. Its impossible given their doctrine.

So now you think some southern Christians think slavery is ok? Wow.

[all_heart]

This link says the skeptic's claim is unsubstantiated. If so, why the need to address it?

uhh... O!!! Do you fight with your waiter, when they bring you what you ordered?!

The author really did nothing but spin with guesses, as is usually the case.

I'd say it's a pretty good "guess", isn't this what you do too?



So Elijah was simply taken up into the sky.....but not Heaven....?

That makes no sense unless you want to start more guessing as to where Old Testament believers go to when they die.

Maybe he didn't die at all, they did look for him afterwards but couldn't find him.

[Blake]

Of course... I figured you would say something like that.

Let me ask you something, what if I'm right and you are wrong and vice versa?

If you are right, then God is going to have me burned alive for eternity for simply not believing in Jesus. Why can't he just let me disappear into nothingness when I die?

Oh, and law of averages says you'll be living in the same gated community with murderers and rapists.

[Blake]

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[Blake]

So now you think some southern Christians think slavery is ok? Wow.

They did in the 1800s.

They had plenty of Bible verses to justify it.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So now you think some southern Christians think slavery is ok? Wow.

I realize you have no context of history but those passages were widely cited by the southern states and their advocates as justification for slavery in the 19th century. Christianity has been around for 2000 years. this notion that slavery should be abolished really only gained traction in the 18th centruy.

I suppose you have never been to rural Mississippi but I guarantee you some of them would have no problem with reenslaving their ancestors former slaves.

[all_heart]

If you are right, then God is going to have me burned alive for eternity for simply not believing in Jesus. Why can't he just let me disappear into nothingness when I die?

Oh, and law of averages says you'll be living in the same gated community with murderers and rapists.

Maybe it's not "fire" but emotional sadness and loneliness, does that make you feel better? You have a choice Blake.

For me it's hard to fathom, a soul just dying out like a light bulb.

Perhaps murders and rapists here on this Earth, but if they are in heaven, then they will have been forgiven and not recognized as criminals.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Maybe it's not "fire" but emotional sadness and loneliness, does that make you feel better? You have a choice Blake.

For me it's hard to fathom, a soul just dying out like a light bulb.

Perhaps murders and rapists here on this Earth, but if they are in heaven, then they will have been forgiven and not recognized as criminals.

Maybe you can just make up more with no justification for it to try and explain that which is obviously absurd.

[Blake]

Are a virgin birth, resurrection of the dead and other miracles more unvbelievalbe than believing that God created the universe?

If God was able to create the universe and man, why would any of the miracles be impossible?

If man has free will in heaven and God really wants some friends, why did he put us on earth first? Why allow Satan in to screw us over?

Lazy answer: "thou shalt not question thy God. Thou cannotst knowest his mindeth."

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If man has free will in heaven and he really wants some friends, why did he put us on earth first? Why allow Satan in to screw us over?

Every good story needs its villain.

[all_heart]

Maybe you can just make up more with no justification for it to try and explain that which is obviously absurd.

Not trying to prove something, just throwing it out there for ya to chew on...

The only thing obvious is that you lost your faith, do you feel your life is better w/out faith?

[Blake]

Maybe it's not "fire" but emotional sadness and loneliness, does that make you feel better? You have a choice Blake.

Depending on who you ask about or sheole, you could be right.

For me it's hard to fathom, a soul just dying out like a light bulb.

Perhaps murders and rapists here on this Earth, but if they are in heaven, then they will have been forgiven and not recognized as criminals.

Hard to fathom a god of love torturing his own creations.

I find the idea of a kidnapping child molester getting rewarded with heaven deplorable.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Not trying to prove something, just throwing it out there for ya to chew on...

The only thing obvious is that you lost your faith, do you feel your life is better w/out faith?

Without a doubt. I feel closer to God.

[all_heart]

If man has free will in heaven and God really wants some friends, why did he put us on earth first? Why allow Satan in to screw us over?

Lazy answer: "thou shalt not question thy God. Thou cannotst knowest his mindeth."

Good question. You almost sound like you want to believe in God.

[DisAsTerBot]

Without a doubt. I feel closer to God.

+1. Except i would say i feel more spiritual and aware

[all_heart]

Depending on who you ask about or sheole, you could be right.



Hard to fathom a god of love torturing his own creations.

I find the idea of a kidnapping child molester getting rewarded with heaven deplorable.

Still harder to imagine your soul, your being just dying out. It's the choices we make in life that decides our fate.

I do too, BUT even a monster can sincerely choose redemption.

[all_heart]

Without a doubt. I feel closer to God.

What God? How so if you don't believe anymore?

[Blake]

Every good story needs its villain.

And a hero to give money to

[Blake]

Good question. You almost sound like you want to believe in God.

I think most humans don't want to believe that death is the end.

[DMC]

Still harder to imagine your soul, your being just dying out. It's the choices we make in life that decides our fate.

I do too, BUT even a monster can sincerely choose redemption.

It's hard to imagine that you are comprised of atoms, but you are. Incredulity was never a marker against truth.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What God? How so if you don't believe anymore?

I never said that I do not believe that God exists. I do not believe in Christianity. I think its contrived nonsense.

[DMC]

If you are right, then God is going to have me burned alive for eternity for simply not believing in Jesus. Why can't he just let me disappear into nothingness when I die?

Oh, and law of averages says you'll be living in the same gated community with murderers and rapists.

And you might inquire as to your origin, where were you before you were conceived? Hard to imagine that for all time before that, you were nothingness.

[underdawg]

Fathers were allowed to sell daughters. It also allowed for non-Hebrew slaves to be owned indefinitely....passed down father to son.

Sorry, but there is never a righteous humanitarian reason to "own" another human, and if you are actively participating in it, then you are endorsing it.

they didn't own another human - they became their bondservant for a period of 7 years & they were to be treated fairly Leviticus 25:39-55

and what is righteous anyway? Where do you get your standards of morality from? just curious

[all_heart]

I think most humans don't want to believe that death is the end.

But that's what you believe. How does that make you feel?