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    Is anyone concerned with some team in need picking him up off of waivers?

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    I'm amazed at how many of you are concerned about this, as if there's any reason for it not to happen and any way he doesn't choose the Spurs. The Bobcats are notoriously cheap and this holdup is nothing more than a negotiating tactic, so that he takes less to go away. But as cheap as they are, they can't be so stupid and ignorant that they'd make their already terrible reputation worse over something so minor. It's going to happen and when it does, he's going to be a Spur.
    Going by that " the players" at ude by Michael Jordan during the lockout I wouldn't be surprised if doesn't get bought-out.

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    Is anyone concerned with some team in need picking him up off of waivers?
    Once he is bought out he can sign with whoever he wants.

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    Once he is bought out he can sign with whoever he wants.
    Right on, thanks!

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    Diaw will have to go through the waivers procedure if he is bought out but he won't be claimed by another NBA teams.

    There are 5 teams (Raptors, Kings, Jazz, Nuggets and Lakers) with enough cap space or a trade exception big enough to claim him:
    - Raptors won't make the playoffs and they are fine at the PF spot.
    - Kings won't make the playoffs.
    - Jazz are fine at the PF spot.
    - Nuggets are fine at the PF spot.
    - It will cost about $9M to the Lakers for claiming Diaw form waivers because of the luxury tax.

    You can always imagine scenarios like Colangelo claiming Diaw just because he loves him or Utah adding him to play SF but they are unlikely. Diaw clearing waivers is a safe bet.

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    Once he is bought out he can sign with whoever he wants.
    I thought that they still had to clear waivers (48 hours) - as is the case with Derek Fisher. I know that no team will pick up Diaw's terrible contract though, so the point is moot.

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    Is anyone concerned with some team in need picking him up off of waivers?
    They would have to eat his entire salary, needing a slot of about $9M to make it work. Not real likely. They buyout is only effective AFTER hr clears waivers.

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    Diaw will have to go through the waivers procedure if he is bought out but he won't be claimed by another NBA teams.

    There are 5 teams (Raptors, Kings, Jazz, Nuggets and Lakers) with enough cap space or a trade exception big enough to claim him:
    - Raptors won't make the playoffs and they are fine at the PF spot.
    - Kings won't make the playoffs.
    - Jazz are fine at the PF spot.
    - Nuggets are fine at the PF spot.
    - It will cost about $9M to the Lakers for claiming Diaw form waivers because of the luxury tax.

    You can always imagine scenarios like Colangelo claiming Diaw just because he loves him or Utah adding him to play SF but they are unlikely. Diaw clearing waivers is a safe bet.
    You can't use a trade exception for anything but a trade. No FA signings, no waiver claims. Just trades.

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    Going by that " the players" at ude by Michael Jordan during the lockout I wouldn't be surprised if doesn't get bought-out.
    That's talk. His salary is $2M real money they will owe. MJ will cave.

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    You can't use a trade exception for anything but a trade. No FA signings, no waiver claims. Just trades.
    You can:
    https://webfiles.uci.edu/lcoon/cbafaq/salarycap.htm#Q56

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    Diaw will have to go through the waivers procedure if he is bought out but he won't be claimed by another NBA teams.

    There are 5 teams (Raptors, Kings, Jazz, Nuggets and Lakers) with enough cap space or a trade exception big enough to claim him:
    - Raptors won't make the playoffs and they are fine at the PF spot.
    - Kings won't make the playoffs.
    - Jazz are fine at the PF spot.
    - Nuggets are fine at the PF spot.
    - It will cost about $9M to the Lakers for claiming Diaw form waivers because of the luxury tax.

    You can always imagine scenarios like Colangelo claiming Diaw just because he loves him or Utah adding him to play SF but they are unlikely. Diaw clearing waivers is a safe bet.
    And the Knicks???

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    Knicks are way over the Luxury Tax threshold - let alone the Salary Cap.

    They do not own a Trade Exception large enough to cover Diaw's salary, so the only chance they have at getting him is to wait for him to clear waivers.
    Last edited by Kindergarten Cop; 03-21-2012 at 07:22 AM.

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    Little off topic but what is the new cutoff date for playoff roster eligibility? All google tells me is March 1st...

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    I disagree. Diaw has the upper hand. There are two things that Charlotte doesn't want: Diaw on their roster and Diaw getting fully paid. If Boris waits it out, calling their bluff, he will probably get a pretty standard buyout of about 50%.
    What does Jordan care whether he's on the roster or not? He's in full tank mode.

    And I suspect that Jordan won't budge much past 25% on the buyout amount, just because well, he's Jordan. Obviously with Jordan the standard doesn't apply.

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    Little off topic but what is the new cutoff date for playoff roster eligibility? All google tells me is March 1st...
    The player has to be waived by this Friday, March 23rd.

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    Little off topic but what is the new cutoff date for playoff roster eligibility? All google tells me is March 1st...
    It's not really a roster eligability date, it's a date when they have to be waived by, and it's sometime on Friday. Once they clear waivers, they can literally sign any time after that.

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    Why are some of you guys so confident he ends up with the Spurs once hes bought out? Because of the French connection with Parker? I hope we land Diaw, but Turiaf is a frenchie as well and apparently hes leaning towards other teams. What makes Diaw so different, why is he pretty much a lock to come here ?

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    Why are some of you guys so confident he ends up with the Spurs once hes bought out? Because of the French connection with Parker? I hope we land Diaw, but Turiaf is a frenchie as well and apparently hes leaning towards other teams. What makes Diaw so different, why is he pretty much a lock to come here ?
    Parker and Diaw are best friends. Diaw was the Best Man at Tony's wedding also.

    Tony has also commented publicly that he wants the Spurs to pursue Diaw.

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    What does Jordan care whether he's on the roster or not? He's in full tank mode.

    And I suspect that Jordan won't budge much past 25% on the buyout amount, just because well, he's Jordan. Obviously with Jordan the standard doesn't apply.
    They don't want him on the roster, because his slack is revelaing the fact that they ARE tanking, something they don't want to affect their youngsters.

    He's also never getting a 25% buyout agreement from Diaw. Charlotte is essentially a poor franchise that operates on a shoestring, and the difference between a hard stance for 25% and getting stuck with Diaw at 100% is about a mil and a half they can't afford for a player they would love to cast off.

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    Diaw will have to go through the waivers procedure if he is bought out but he won't be claimed by another NBA teams.

    There are 5 teams (Raptors, Kings, Jazz, Nuggets and Lakers) with enough cap space or a trade exception big enough to claim him:
    - Raptors won't make the playoffs and they are fine at the PF spot.
    - Kings won't make the playoffs.
    - Jazz are fine at the PF spot.
    - Nuggets are fine at the PF spot.
    - It will cost about $9M to the Lakers for claiming Diaw form waivers because of the luxury tax.

    You can always imagine scenarios like Colangelo claiming Diaw just because he loves him or Utah adding him to play SF but they are unlikely. Diaw clearing waivers is a safe bet.
    this scares me. i can see the lakers picking him up just to block the spurs.

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    Parker and Diaw are best friends. Diaw was the Best Man at Tony's wedding also.

    Tony has also commented publicly that he wants the Spurs to pursue Diaw.
    I figured that with both being French theyd be friendly but didnt know that they were that close, thanks

    Hopefully Diaw is a Spur soon.

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    They don't want him on the roster, because his slack is revelaing the fact that they ARE tanking, something they don't want to affect their youngsters.

    He's also never getting a 25% buyout agreement from Diaw. Charlotte is essentially a poor franchise that operates on a shoestring, and the difference between a hard stance for 25% and getting stuck with Diaw at 100% is about a mil and a half they can't afford for a player they would love to cast off.
    You actually got a link backing those claims up?

    If not, I will politely disagree. First off, I doubt the "youngsters" care one way or the other. Not like they were going to make the playoffs. I also don't think Jordan cares what people think either. Not like he's under any intense scrutiny by the league. If Diaw's "slacking" affects anyone, it will most likely be himself. Which is why the spurs should pass on him because the last thing they need is to get stuck with another copy of a soft slacker like Jefferson, especially after they finally just got rid of the original.

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    I can see the Lakers or Nuggets claiming him just to keep him from rivals.

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    Biyombo has erased his tweet on Diaw.

    And it's not a given that if Diaw is bought out he will end up with Spurs but I like their odds...

    I can see the Lakers or Nuggets claiming him just to keep him from rivals.
    Unlike under the previous CBA, Lakers are now careful about the money they spend. They have even done some financial trades with Odom and Fisher. I don't see them at all spending $9M to get Diaw for a couple of months. They might be interested to sign him as a free agent given how weak their bench is.

    Claiming Diaw from waivers will cost $2M to Denver and will consume a nice trade exception they have. That's a lot to give up just to avoid him to hit the free agent market while Nuggets are more a pretender than a contender.

    If Diaw is bought out, it's at 99% sure the he will clear waivers.

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    So Diaw could join the Spurs on Monday?

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