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    It is, by many means acute. The jobs are there, the labor force is not.

    You want something a president can help with, this is it.

    As the additional costs imposed by high oil prices, as well as other factors, make manufacturing jobs creep back home, we need to figure out how to meet this demand. Vocational grants?

    The demand is there, and so is the loss to the economy from a lack of workers.

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    Bucks and Montgomery County manufacturers are meeting Wednesday morning to talk about a key issue - after years of declines in manufacturing employment, they are facing looming shortages of highly skilled workers.

    "It's a huge problem," said Lisa Christman, senior human resources director at the K'nex toy manufacturing company in Hatfield and one of the organizers of Wednesday's meeting.

    Christman doesn't have to walk far from her office at K'nex to the factory floor, where injection molding machines spit out the brightly colored rods and connectors that combine to create construction-toy roller coasters and Ferris wheels.

    From her vantage point, she can see some of her company's most important employees - the 18 toolmakers who create the molds that are the heart of the operation.

    A third of them, she said, are within 10 years of retirement. Experienced toolmakers are hard to find and "a toolmaker takes 10 years to become proficient."

    "We're not the only ones" worried about a skills gap. There are also shortages, she said, in people trained to be machinists and setup technicians.

    So eager are the area's manufacturers to address the issue of a looming shortage of skilled manufacturing employees that they are forming their own grassroots group - the Bux-Mont Manufacturing Consortium. The Wednesday meeting, to be at the North Montco Technical Career Center in Lansdale, is its second.

    On the agenda are discussions of how to engage trade schools in the region to build a talent pipeline and a review of existing training funding and availability through government workforce investment boards and community colleges.

    The group was just beginning to galvanize last spring when the Middle Bucks Ins ute of Technology announced that it would close its precision machining program. Enrollment had dwindled to five students.

    Local manufacturers rallied, unsuccessfully, to keep the program open.

    In the fall, the Bucks County Workforce Investment Board chose the school to host a manufacturing job fair. Nearly every manufacturer that set up a table at the event was looking for a machinist.

    Some said that they would hire a machinist even without an immediate opening, just to get them on the payroll.

    K'nex toolmakers earn between $18 and $30 an hour, and must work 55 hours weekly. Even the lowest paid earns more than $1,100 a week with overtime.

    "What we have to do is make sure that manufacturing jobs are attractive to parents, teachers, and students," Christman said.

    http://articles.philly.com/2012-02-2...-manufacturers

    Take this story and a few others.

    The slight re-shoring of such jobs doesn't make a lot of mainstream news since it isn't one of those sensationalistic tidbits, but it is worth noting.

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    It is, by many means acute. The jobs are there, the labor force is not.

    You want something a president can help with, this is it.

    As the additional costs imposed by high oil prices, as well as other factors, make manufacturing jobs creep back home, we need to figure out how to meet this demand. Vocational grants?

    The demand is there, and so is the loss to the economy from a lack of workers.

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    Bucks and Montgomery County manufacturers are meeting Wednesday morning to talk about a key issue - after years of declines in manufacturing employment, they are facing looming shortages of highly skilled workers.

    "It's a huge problem," said Lisa Christman, senior human resources director at the K'nex toy manufacturing company in Hatfield and one of the organizers of Wednesday's meeting.

    Christman doesn't have to walk far from her office at K'nex to the factory floor, where injection molding machines spit out the brightly colored rods and connectors that combine to create construction-toy roller coasters and Ferris wheels.

    From her vantage point, she can see some of her company's most important employees - the 18 toolmakers who create the molds that are the heart of the operation.

    A third of them, she said, are within 10 years of retirement. Experienced toolmakers are hard to find and "a toolmaker takes 10 years to become proficient."

    "We're not the only ones" worried about a skills gap. There are also shortages, she said, in people trained to be machinists and setup technicians.

    So eager are the area's manufacturers to address the issue of a looming shortage of skilled manufacturing employees that they are forming their own grassroots group - the Bux-Mont Manufacturing Consortium. The Wednesday meeting, to be at the North Montco Technical Career Center in Lansdale, is its second.

    On the agenda are discussions of how to engage trade schools in the region to build a talent pipeline and a review of existing training funding and availability through government workforce investment boards and community colleges.

    The group was just beginning to galvanize last spring when the Middle Bucks Ins ute of Technology announced that it would close its precision machining program. Enrollment had dwindled to five students.

    Local manufacturers rallied, unsuccessfully, to keep the program open.

    In the fall, the Bucks County Workforce Investment Board chose the school to host a manufacturing job fair. Nearly every manufacturer that set up a table at the event was looking for a machinist.

    Some said that they would hire a machinist even without an immediate opening, just to get them on the payroll.

    K'nex toolmakers earn between $18 and $30 an hour, and must work 55 hours weekly. Even the lowest paid earns more than $1,100 a week with overtime.

    "What we have to do is make sure that manufacturing jobs are attractive to parents, teachers, and students," Christman said.

    http://articles.philly.com/2012-02-2...-manufacturers

    Take this story and a few others.

    The slight re-shoring of such jobs doesn't make a lot of mainstream news since it isn't one of those sensationalistic tidbits, but it is worth noting.
    I like the thought of vocational grants, but given the recent exposure of ATI and other training school cash grabs, I'm a little leary of a blank check.

    Moving that cash into the public school vocatiional programs makes alot of sense, IMO.

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    "highly skilled workers" making $55K/year?

    Union busting and the VRWC War on Employees has paid off for employers very handsomely, as intended. Human-Americans pitted against 3rd world desperate semi-slaves.

    The game in USA now is playing with money, "financialization of the economy", not bashing/molding metal and plastic.

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    Great video. Yes, we need more skilled workers and less young people with liberal arts degrees ing about their mountain of student debt and begging for their 50K starting salary.

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    Great video. Yes, we need more skilled workers and less young people with liberal arts degrees ing about their mountain of student debt and begging for their 50K starting salary.
    Why did you bother writing anything past we need more skilled workers?

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    "liberal arts degrees ing about their mountain of student debt and begging for their 50K starting salary."

    lots of law grads are out of work, along with 1000s of vet lawyers.

    Finance sector recruits aggressively all the top college grads and sucks that talent into their corrupt casino.

    liberal arts education isn't the main reason college grads can't find jobs

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    Right now, just an hour's drive south of San Antonio, there are employers begging for qualified employees. I was at a conference last week, and they are literally begging for people who want to work. A couple of them talked about trying to hire drivers (at a really good salary BTW) and weeding through hundreds of candidates. And then over 50% of them fail the drug test. Some have actually hired people straight out of jail, because they will test clean. Machinists? Can't find 'em, and can't get people to stay around to be trained, once they find out what a machinist really does.

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    lots of law grads are out of work, along with 1000s of vet lawyers.

    Good. We've known for more than a decade we had too many. Maybe they should become machinists, to make ends meet.

    Finance sector recruits aggressively all the top college grads and sucks that talent into their corrupt casino.

    So the best and brightest are attracted to jobs that pay money, while the losers become "social entrepreneurs"? Thanks Captain Obvious.

    liberal arts education isn't the main reason college grads can't find jobs

    Nothing about Gender Studies qualifies them for the jobs that are available. If you don't see the connection... well, you're probably one of them.

    http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/20...tate-by-state/


    The Lawyer Surplus, State by State

    By CATHERINE RAMPELL

    We’ve written before about the tough job market for recent law-school graduates. The climate is hard partly because of the weak economy, but also partly because the nation’s law schools are churning out many more lawyers than the economy needs even in the long run.

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    This all started when schools phased out vocational education, wood shop, and auto mechanics classes and had the brilliant idea that 100% of High School Students should be prepped for college.

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    This all started when schools phased out vocational education, wood shop, and auto mechanics classes and had the brilliant idea that 100% of High School Students should be prepped for college.

    Yep.

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    Why did you bother writing anything past we need more skilled workers?

    We need more skilled workers and fewer "educated" people with zero skills. I know -- somewhat redundant.

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    This all started when schools phased out vocational education, wood shop, and auto mechanics classes and had the brilliant idea that 100% of High School Students should be prepped for college.
    This is a common meme, but it's not exactly accurate.

    Voc Ed was never phased out. You can argue it was de-emphasized, and I would probably agree to a point. There was no single, brilliant idea that led to the college fastrack...it was a ulation of many initiatives loosely based upon the underlying principles of No Child Left Behind.

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    The thing that kills me is that people like Boutons are too damn stupid to figure out that getting a degree for which there is virtually no demand is going to leave you without a job. He pretty much proved the point with the stupid comment about lawyers. Too many lawyers coming out of college means lots of unemployed lawyers. You've got to be trying to be that damn ignorant.

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    This is a common meme, but it's not exactly accurate.

    Voc Ed was never phased out. You can argue it was de-emphasized, and I would probably agree to a point. There was no single, brilliant idea that led to the college fastrack...it was a ulation of many initiatives loosely based upon the underlying principles of No Child Left Behind.

    Oh me... "it's Bush's fault". The Battle Hymn of the Repugnant. The absolute ing lowest common denominator.

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    I took vocational classes in high school. Granted, that was over a decade ago, but I dout they've been phased out in that time.

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    Oh me... "it's Bush's fault". The Battle Hymn of the Repugnant. The absolute ing lowest common denominator.
    No, you miss the point entirely. What part of " ulation of many initiatives loosely based upon the underlying principles " do you not understand?

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    I took vocational classes in high school. Granted, that was over a decade ago, but I dout they've been phased out in that time.
    My son is working towards his ASE certification as a mechanic via our school district's incredible Voc Ed programs. When he graduates High School, he will have his certification and will probably out earn me.

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    I took vocational classes in high school. Granted, that was over a decade ago, but I dout they've been phased out in that time.

    I think Tesha's point has been made. Not literally phased out, just de-emphasized.

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    I completely agree not everyone should go to college. I know most people here have agreed with that point on several occasions.

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    He could've graduated as a meteorologist.

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    This is actually good news for the skilled workers that are out there. They will have more choices and make more $$.

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    If you have an area that cannot find enough qualified people, then what does that say about the schools in the area? manufacturing isn't that difficult.

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    Great video. Yes, we need more skilled workers and less young people with liberal arts degrees ing about their mountain of student debt and begging for their 50K starting salary.
    Agreed, however, I don't think the whole liberal arts boom of the 2000s is to blame for this shortage. It probably started before that, to which I would lay blame to the schools themselves for being unable get out to the local communities and really drive home the point of how profitable and neccessary manufacturing jobs are to those regions and the country itself.

    So basically, I agree with the Repug posting above me.

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    So why aren't the unemployed, especially those who have run out of unemployment checks, flocking to vocational schools? And why aren't the for-profit schools trying to capitalize on this?

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