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    I would rather see dawson get more minutes. And maybe find another point besides mills.

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    I would rather see dawson get more minutes. And maybe find another point besides mills.
    You forgot to "blue" your text...or were you serious?

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    If Spurs do like OKC with Fisher and sign Diaw just after he clear waivers Friday at 6 pm ET, he will be able to play the next game against Mavs. With little time remaining before the playoffs, it will be the right move to do providing it's doable.

    And the primary reaction "Spurs are fine offensively, they don't really need a player with offensive skills" isn't as true as it seems. Diaw should take Blair minutes and Spurs aren't a good offensive team with Blair. Spurs are scoring 95.9 points per 48 minutes when Blair is on the court and 103.5 without Blair on the court. There is a big margin for improvement.

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    If Spurs do like OKC with Fisher and sign Diaw just after he clear waivers Friday at 6 pm ET, he will be able to play the next game against Mavs. With little time remaining before the playoffs, it will be the right move to do providing it's doable.

    And the primary reaction "Spurs are fine offensively, they don't really need a player with offensive skills" isn't as true as it seems. Diaw should take Blair minutes and Spurs aren't a good offensive team with Blair. Spurs are scoring 95.9 points per 48 minutes when Blair is on the court and 103.5 without Blair on the court. There is a big margin for improvement.
    Blair is doing good on his ala Gooden moves

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    And the primary reaction "Spurs are fine offensively, they don't really need a player with offensive skills" isn't as true as it seems. Diaw should take Blair minutes and Spurs aren't a good offensive team with Blair. Spurs are scoring 95.9 points per 48 minutes when Blair is on the court and 103.5 without Blair on the court. There is a big margin for improvement.
    That stat is especially damning when you consider Blair's below-average defense. Reducing his minutes could easily be addition by subtraction in the same vein as RJ.

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    That stat is especially damning when you consider Blair's below-average defense. Reducing his minutes could easily be addition by subtraction in the same vein as RJ.
    Agreed - Blair is the most frightening deficiency on this team by far. Jefferson had some serious flaws, PG has been banged up and suffered from some "ugly but effective" Gary Neal play, Danny Green has been up and down, and Bonner is pressure's - but all of that pales to the inep ude that is Dejuan Blair. Hes barely an NBA player right now.

    His defense is atrocious
    His offense is explosive about 1-10 games - and then just disappears
    His rebounding (his strength) is well below average

    We really need to move on. Diaw gives us another option at least.

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    That stat is especially damning when you consider Blair's below-average defense. Reducing his minutes could easily be addition by subtraction in the same vein as RJ.
    Yep, Spurs are too doing better defensively when Blair is on the bench. They allow 98.2 pts/48min with him and 94.1 pts/48min without him.

    When it comes to +/- stat, Blair is horrible:
    http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusmi...t=9&team=Spurs

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    Yep, Spurs are too doing better defensively when Blair is on the bench. They allow 98.2 pts/48min with him and 94.1 pts/48min without him.

    When it comes to +/- stat, Blair is horrible:
    http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusmi...t=9&team=Spurs
    I know it's not fair considering the difference in minutes, but seeing Ike Diogu ahead of Blair is hilarious

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    I'm not sure if Diaw will really be the answer we need or not, but I would love to see the Spurs sign him just so we can say they tried SOMETHING (and actually succeeded)....at least we know the effort appears to be there this time.

    Personally, I think he will be better than people expect if he is playing with purpose, something he obviously was not doing in Charlotte. Playing for a contender and with TP to keep the fire lit under his ass, he may be able to re-kindle some of that spark that made him a force for the Suns years ago.

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    Yep, Spurs are too doing better defensively when Blair is on the bench. They allow 98.2 pts/48min with him and 94.1 pts/48min without him.

    When it comes to +/- stat, Blair is horrible:
    http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusmi...t=9&team=Spurs
    Thanks for looking that up! It's funny how the talk goes around here, though.

    Blair's advanced stats are bad? It's because he sucks!
    Bonner's advanced stats are good? ...He still sucks!

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    Thanks for looking that up! It's funny how the talk goes around here, though.

    Blair's advanced stats are bad? It's because he sucks!
    Bonner's advanced stats are good? ...He still sucks!
    diaw's advance stats suck....but the spurs might sign him so he's the savior!!!!

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    getting Diaw is a nobrainer

    Blair looks pathetic and Bonner is hurt. Actually getting any mediocre big man is a nobrainer.

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    diaw's advance stats suck....but the spurs might sign him so he's the savior!!!!
    Actually, Diaw's advanced stats for the last two years stunk but he led the team in +/- the two years before that so I would say motivation and the loss of Larry Brown absolutely played a factor in his play at Charlotte.

    Makes me more hopeful that he can be a positive factor under Pop and TP.

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    adding diaw makes sense for depth alone, especially in a season as brutal as this one. depth will be a great asset.

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    Does anyone know the teams that could get him on waivers? I assume it's anyone that is not currently over the cap.

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    Does anyone know the teams that could get him on waivers? I assume it's anyone that is not currently over the cap.
    They can't. Only five teams can claim Diaw form waivers (Raptors, Kings, Nuggets, Jazz and Lakers). For none of these teams claiming Diaw would make sense but you never know.

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    Does anyone know the teams that could get him on waivers? I assume it's anyone that is not currently over the cap.
    Only team i've seen so far are the Suns who might be of interest, but I don't know their financial situation. There were a list of like 5 teams who could tho

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    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...1&postcount=30

    "There are 5 teams (Raptors, Kings, Jazz, Nuggets and Lakers) with enough cap space or a trade exception big enough to claim him:
    - Raptors won't make the playoffs and they are fine at the PF spot.
    - Kings won't make the playoffs.
    - Jazz are fine at the PF spot.
    - Nuggets are fine at the PF spot.
    - It will cost about $9M to the Lakers for claiming Diaw form waivers because of the luxury tax."

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    Thanks. Of those five teams, Denver is the most dangerous given they recently lost Gallinari with a broken hand. But maybe they think Chandler (recently signed) can fill his role.

    We can forget about the nonplayoff teams (Raptors/Kings) as they want to develop young talent and don't want to bring on a guy that has made it clear that he will give less of an effort for a losing team.

    The Jazz and the Lakers are the only playoff calibur teams in the running. The Jazz have a lot of forwards already, so it's unlikely they'd make a play for Diaw. Also, they are very cap sensitive, so they aren't likely to make that move. (BTW Jazz, thanks for stopping us from signing Raja Bell).

    Lakers just made a trade with Houston for a power forward/center, and given their investment in big men, I don't see them taking that chance. But they are in a championship window, so who knows.

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    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...1&postcount=30

    "There are 5 teams (Raptors, Kings, Jazz, Nuggets and Lakers) with enough cap space or a trade exception big enough to claim him:
    - Raptors won't make the playoffs and they are fine at the PF spot.
    - Kings won't make the playoffs.
    - Jazz are fine at the PF spot.
    - Nuggets are fine at the PF spot.
    - It will cost about $9M to the Lakers for claiming Diaw form waivers because of the luxury tax."
    Denver is only two-deep at PF with Faried and Harrington. Denver is another one of those teams ravaged by injuries and could certainly use depth. Nevermind if Diaw doesn't want to play third string for a team, that's basically what he's become and he really won't have much to say if Denver claims him off waivers
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    Denver might also consider playing the block game seeing as how this is a potential first round matchup.
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    Denver is only two-deep at PF with Faried and Harrington. Denver is another one of those teams ravaged by injuries and could certainly use depth. Nevermind if Diaw doesn't want to play third string for a team, that's basically what he's become and he really won't have much ay if Denver claims him off waivers.
    I can see the Nugget email now to the Spurs front office...this is for 2005.

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    Denver is only two-deep at PF with Faried and Harrington. Denver is another one of those teams ravaged by injuries and could certainly use depth. Nevermind if Diaw doesn't want to play third string for a team, that's basically what he's become and he really won't have much to say if Denver claims him off waivers
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    Denver might also consider playing the block game seeing as how this is a potential first round matchup.
    Faried, Harrington, and Anderson are there now and Gallinari will be back. It would really be dumb to take on that much salary from Diaw to block the Spurs and have him sit on the bench as the 5th string PF.

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    Malik rode was an energy player. Blair hasn't shown energy in two years.

    You haven't seen him at Whataburger, lots of energy on display there... intense.


    And yes, I can talk tough like that, but if he was next to me and I realized he overheard me say that, I'd crap my pants.


    Just kidding Bear!

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    Faried, Harrington, and Anderson are there now and Gallinari will be back. It would really be dumb to take on that much salary from Diaw to block the Spurs and have him sit on the bench as the 5th string PF.
    Gallo is a small forward and Anderson is basically receiving garbage time minutes as the 4th string Center. Depth is a convenience not only for the Spurs.

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    Denver has a pretty good team IMO

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