Lebron and the Heat wear Hoodies in Honor of Trayvon Martin

[Gutter92]

You're saying that if you manage to overpower a person that's following you home, you're in the wrong?

Clearly...

JaG, could you tell me, who is to blame in this video?



Cause the black guy walks up to the white guy who he percieves a threat to his neighbors (the other black guys who he was walking with), and the white guy attacks him, so the black guy acts in self defense...the whole situation could have been avoided if the black guy just backed off and let the guy walk through the hall, but he had to follow him...

[Gutter92]

imo, self defense up there ^

maybe the white guy had skittles too

[DMC]

Sometimes you gotta taste the rainbow, just ask Pinky up there, he's a rainbow warrior.

What happened with that kid was a shame, there's no reason a neighborhood watch person needs to be carrying a gun. He can call the cops and let them handle it. Could have been self defense, but not unavoidable.

There's such a gap in perception between young "gantsta" looks and young gangstas themselves, and most non-savvy peeps don't know the difference. Everyone in a hood is a gangsta, and if they are black, even more so.

[resistanze]

imo, self defense up there ^

maybe the white guy had skittles too

lol, win.

[Koolaid_Man]

Sometimes you gotta taste the rainbow, just ask Pinky up there, he's a rainbow warrior.

What happened with that kid was a shame, there's no reason a neighborhood watch person needs to be carrying a gun. He can call the cops and let them handle it. Could have been self defense, but not unavoidable.

There's such a gap in perception between young "gantsta" looks and young gangstas themselves, and most non-savvy peeps don't know the difference. Everyone in a hood is a gangsta, and if they are black, even more so.

I voted for Obama simply because he was black...and not ashamed to admit it...now only if whitey would admit it's the same reason he didn't vote for him...

[DMC]

I voted for Obama simply because he was black...and not ashamed to admit it...now only if whitey would admit it's the same reason he didn't vote for him...

I did vote for him, but not because of his skin color.

You probably didn't show up to vote, too chicken .

[Koolaid_Man]

I tend to look at things from the 50k foot level...with an Eagle Eye's view...The global ramifications of Obama failing would be a huge setback for black people ..that's why it's imperative he does well...and thus far so good with a few minor hiccups...the secret Uber white man society cannot bear the thought of a black man succeeding...they couldn't live with that image so they work day and night to block his policies....If he succeeds then the playing field is widened for more minorities...but if he fails then it's see I told you so about the black man..yep this is much bigger than local petty racists this is even over their heads...Kool understands the game at a much higher level and what it all means...the end of the world won't come at the hands of Obama it will come at the hands of a woman in office....so as it was at the beginning with Eve...

[Koolaid_Man]

I did vote for him, but not because of his skin color.

You probably didn't show up to vote, too chicken .

Ever since it's inception America has been voting for presidents based on race whether they be repubs or Dems as long as they were white they were in office...so save the you only voted for him because he was black crap...you gotdam right I did...

[DMC]

Ever since it's inception America has been voting for presidents based on race whether they be repubs or Dems as long as they were white they were in office...so save the you only voted for him because he was black crap...you gotdam right I did...

Cool story.

No really.

[Goran Dragic]

Just a young, scared, innocent kid.

So even though multiple neighbors have said in interviews that they're positive it was Martin screaming, an "unnamed" neighbor Fox (the most racist news network in the country) decided to cover, who refused to appear on camera saying Zimmerman was the one screaming is enough to convince you

[Goran Dragic]

Also, from what I've read, other residents in the community had no idea some fatass who's 2/3rds to a re was driving around their neighborhood with a gun. This wasn't by any stretch of the imagination some well organized neighborhood watch thing where Zimmerman was appointed to patrol the neighborhood. Anyone who believes the "great in neighborhood watch volunteer" thing is really stupid. Zimmerman appointed himself neighborhood watch captain doesn't make this any different.

[jag]

So even though multiple neighbors have said in interviews that they're positive it was Martin screaming, an "unnamed" neighbor Fox (the most racist news network in the country) decided to cover, who refused to appear on camera saying Zimmerman was the one screaming is enough to convince you

lol you thinking it was Martin screaming. Those are reports from people listening to things from different areas of the complex. How the eff would they know? There was a guy who watched the fight happen outside of his patio door and gave detailed information on what happened. Look into that.

All joking and ridiculous arguing aside, after you realize it wasn't Martin screaming, you'll just say it doesn't matter. So why even bring that up as a point of argument?

[resistanze]

Following someone home with a gun then screaming self-defense if they get the drop on you

[resistanze]

I'm gonna start following young women home at night. If they attempt to pepper spray me, I'll strangle them in self-defense.

[jag]

Following someone home with a gun then screaming self-defense if they get the drop on you

Yeah, it's pretty ing stupid. But it's not illegal if at that point you feel your life is in danger. I didn't make the law.

The law, you know that thing keeping him out of jail right now.

[Goran Dragic]

lol you thinking it was Martin screaming.

Sounds like a younger voice screaming. Martin must also be one scrappy mother er to be able to pin down and beat the out of someone 100 pounds heavier than he was.

Those are reports from people listening to things from different areas of the complex. How the eff would they know?

Well lets see, the screaming immediately stopped after the gunshot. It didn't take a few seconds to stop or anything, it immediately stopped. If Zimmerman was really getting jumped, getting the beaten out of him and in physical harm screaming for him, he would have kept screaming after the gun went off.

There was a guy who watched the fight happen outside of his patio door and gave detailed information on what happened. Look into that.

Look into the fact that the screaming stopped immediately after the shot.

All joking and ridiculous arguing aside, after you realize it wasn't Martin screaming, you'll just say it doesn't matter. So why even bring that up as a point of argument?

After watching that youtube video and hearing a voice screaming that sounds a lot more like a 17 year old black voice than a 30some year old be@ner voice, I'm pretty convinced it was Martin. Likewise, once you realize it wasn't Zimmerman screaming, you'll find a new reason why he feared for his life because of an unarmed n!gga who weighed 100 pounds less than he did.

[Goran Dragic]

I'm gonna start following young women home at night. If they attempt to pepper spray me, I'll strangle them in self-defense.

[resistanze]

Yeah, it's pretty ing stupid. But it's not illegal if at that point you feel your life is in danger. I didn't make the law.

The law, you know that thing keeping him out of jail right now.

Well I assume there's going to be further investigation on whether this law applies to Zimmerman. When Jeb Bush and other lawmakers of "Stand you Ground" say shouldn't be applied here, then there's probably room for interpretation.

[jag]

I'm gonna start following young women home at night. If they attempt to pepper spray me, I'll strangle them in self-defense.

Are those women walking through your neighborhood and do they meet the description of suspects in recent robbery cases?

[Goran Dragic]

Yeah, it's pretty ing stupid. But it's not illegal if at that point you feel your life is in danger. I didn't make the law.

The law, you know that thing keeping him out of jail right now.

Every legal expert I've seen interviewed says that the self defense statute the police have referred to pretty much goes out the window when the person claiming self defense is told "You don't have to follow the guy" by a 911 dispatcher.

If the cops handled this so perfectly and applied the law so correctly, it's truly remarkable the police chief has taken a temporary leave of absence. Odd behavior for someone who didn't do anything wrong.

[Goran Dragic]

Are those women walking through your neighborhood and do they meet the description of suspects in recent robbery cases?

It doesn't matter, because all he'd have to do is say he's the neighborhood watch captain and that the woman was engaging in su ious behavior. You seem to think that gives cause to using deadly force.

[jag]

Sounds like a younger voice screaming. Martin must also be one scrappy mother er to be able to pin down and beat the out of someone 100 pounds heavier than he was.


Well lets see, the screaming immediately stopped after the gunshot. It didn't take a few seconds to stop or anything, it immediately stopped. If Zimmerman was really getting jumped, getting the beaten out of him and in physical harm screaming for him, he would have kept screaming after the gun went off.


Look into the fact that the screaming stopped immediately after the shot.


After watching that youtube video and hearing a voice screaming that sounds a lot more like a 17 year old black voice than a 30some year old be@ner voice, I'm pretty convinced it was Martin. Likewise, once you realize it wasn't Zimmerman screaming, you'll find a new reason why he feared for his life because of an unarmed n!gga who weighed 100 pounds less than he did.

Remember when I said "facts be damned"? You're all about some cir stantial evidence that cannot be verified.

I can't believe you would seriously say something like "the voice sounds like a 17 year old black voice". Is this real life?

It's already been reported and corroborated that Zimmerman was getting his ass beat. He had s ches to the back of his head, wet grass all over his back and lacerations to the front of his face.

-Zimmerman was wearing a red sweatshirt.
-Martin was wearing a light gray/white-ish hoodie
-It's been reported numerous times that the guy in the red hoodie was on his back getting his ass beat, screamed for help, then fired one shot while laying on his back.

This is where you tell me about 17 year old black voices and something silly like "black people don't like white hoodies" or some bull . lol why would Zimmerman keep screaming after he had just shot the only reason for his screams? If it was Martin, why would Martin scream for help while beating someone's ass?? I know when I whoop someone's ass, I scream bloody murder for help.

Sorry for paying attention to facts of the case (the police report) and not getting caught up in conjecture.

[jag]

It doesn't matter, because all he'd have to do is say he's the neighborhood watch captain and that the woman was engaging in su ious behavior. You seem to think that gives cause to using deadly force.

No, I don't seem to think that at all. Why don't we actually talk about the case and not this nonsense you seem to be more interested it?

[resistanze]

Are those women walking through your neighborhood and do they meet the description of suspects in recent robbery cases?

You can't be ing serious. What description exactly? Hoodies? Black? Holding Skittles? What description did he meet?

And so what? If they robberies were committed by a group of women, I have the right to follow any women I please to her home?

[jag]

Every legal expert I've seen interviewed says that the self defense statute the police have referred to pretty much goes out the window when the person claiming self defense is told "You don't have to follow the guy" by a 911 dispatcher.

Well either you aren't paying attention, or those people are wrong. A simple search will tell you that police dispatchers aren't actual police and have no authority to give or not give orders. It's simply a recommendation you can take or not take.

If the cops handled this so perfectly and applied the law so correctly, it's truly remarkable the police chief has taken a temporary leave of absence. Odd behavior for someone who didn't do anything wrong.

Yes, because media pressure plays no part in this. And because if/when there is a trial, the police chief taking a leave of absence will play a part in whether or not Zimmerman is convicted... oh wait, no it won't.