Trayvon Martin - black kid armed with skittles killed in "self-defense"

[ChumpDumper]

I've already addressed that.

Try and keep up.

Right, he had a grill too.

[Goran Dragic]

That stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. And if Trayvon wanted to look the part of a criminal, he may run the risk of being suspected of as much w/o much hesitation.

So what are you suggesting? Michael Jackson surgery?

There were references to him getting in a fight w/ a bus driver, and along w/ the jewelry, I believe I read something about "burglary tools," whatever those might be.

How does one draw the conclusion that tools are "burglary tools"?

[Fpoonsie]

Lo and behold, he completely abandoned the twitter account angle he so breathlessly pimped only a few posts earlier.

I abandoned nothing. His twitter and fb account paint the picture of a teen that COULD have been su ious looking, as Zimmerman claimed.

[ChumpDumper]

I abandoned nothing. His twitter and fb account paint the picture of a teen that COULD have been su ious looking, as Zimmerman claimed.

[Goran Dragic]

No. The "look" he was sporting as well as some supposed "su ious behavior" that Zimmerman alludes to was what made him look su ious. And the fact that (again, according to reports I've read) he had had trouble in school (fights, drugs, possible theft) don't necessarily paint the picture of a squeaky-clean teen.

I'm sure Zimmerman had knowledge the stranger he was running after had a history of fights, drugs, and possible theft at school.

What exactly was su ious behavior, walking around?

[Fpoonsie]

So what are you suggesting? Michael Jackson surgery?

It's not about being white. It's about dressing the part of a stereotypical criminal. Were a white guy to dress in a similar manner, I'd make the same assumptions.

How does one draw the conclusion that tools are "burglary tools"?

I already said I wasn't sure what was meant by that. The report identified them as "possible burglary tools." It didn't elaborate.

[CosmicCowboy]

So what are you suggesting? Michael Jackson surgery?




How does one draw the conclusion that tools are "burglary tools"?

When they have been altered like the screwdriver in Martins backpack.

*edit* another account just said it was a flathead screwdriver. It's a common tool for punching locks on cars but obviously has other uses.

[Fpoonsie]

I'm sure Zimmerman had knowledge the stranger he was running after had a history of fights, drugs, and possible theft at school.

Never claimed as much.

[Winehole23]

Not once have I definitively stated that Trayvon was acting in a manner in which preventative action may've been required.

disingenous. you're definitely building a brief against TM.

you say I've left no room for doubt on the question, but I don't recall that I've addressed it...wouldyou mind pointing where?

[Fpoonsie]

When they have been altered like the screwdriver in Martins backpack.

Okay, so maybe they DID elaborate.

[ChumpDumper]

I already said I wasn't sure what was meant by that. The report identified them as "possible burglary tools." It didn't elaborate.

But they also made him look like a stereotypical criminal that night!

[Goran Dragic]

It's not about being white.

Sure. If Martin was a white kid wearing a hoody you'd view him as equally su ious.

It's about dressing the part of a stereotypical criminal.

So wearing a hoody is dressing the part of a criminal? I must be pretty lucky given how many times I've worn a hoody during the winter.

Were a white guy to dress in a similar manner, I'd make the same assumptions.

So you get su ious any time a white guy is walking down the street with a hoody on?

I already said I wasn't sure what was meant by that.

Yet you keep using it as an argument.

[Fabbs]

I'm sure Zimmerman had knowledge the stranger he was running after had a history of fights, drugs, and possible theft at school.

What exactly was su ious behavior, walking around?

You're bordering ChumpyStrawlike in that you are assuming he did NOT know about history of fights, drugs, possible theft at school.

Not saying guard guy did know, but perhaps he is familiar with individuals in his 'hood including Tayvarshon (sp).

[Goran Dragic]

When they have been altered like the screwdriver in Martins backpack.

a screw driver! OMG!

[ChumpDumper]

Criminal!

[Goran Dragic]

You're bordering ChumpyStrawlike in that you are assuming he did NOT know about history of fights, drugs, possible theft at school.

Not saying guard guy did know, but perhaps he is familiar with individuals in his 'hood including Tayvarshon (sp).

I hope you aren't actually serious

[Goran Dragic]

Criminal!

Su ious behavior!

[Viva Las Espuelas]

you got nothing, as usual.

Yup. You provided it already. If you don't realize that, that's your problem. Sucks, doesn't it?

[Fpoonsie]

disingenous. you're definitely building a brief against TM.

you say I've left no room for doubt on the question, but I don't recall that I've addressed it...wouldyou mind pointing where?

I might've been broad-stroking it a bit while simply addressing "you," but this entire thread seems to be lynch-mobbing this Zimmerman cat who, I'll admit, does seem like a shady character. At the very least, he's a bit overeager.

However, that doesn't mean that TM is completely without fault or that Zimmerman was completely without cause for pursuing him. Maybe TM was just walking down the sidewalk, drinking an iced tea and eating Skittles.

But maybe he wasn't. I'm only attempting to leave room for doubt.

[ChumpDumper]

Su ious behavior!

One can only imagine the horrors contained in his twitter account!

[ChumpDumper]

I might've been broad-stroking it a bit while simply addressing "you," but this entire thread seems to be lynch-mobbing this Zimmerman cat who, I'll admit, does seem like a shady character. At the very least, he's a bit overeager.

However, that doesn't mean that TM is completely without fault or that Zimmerman was completely without cause for pursuing him. Maybe TM was just walking down the sidewalk, drinking an iced tea and eating Skittles.

But maybe he wasn't. I'm only attempting to leave room for doubt.

What is your working theory about what he was doing, based on your extensive twitter profiling experience?

[Creepn]

According to Florida's stalking law, it seems Zimmerman fits that crime imho. http://www.esia.net/State_Stalking_Laws.htm

[Goran Dragic]

I might've been broad-stroking it a bit while simply addressing "you," but this entire thread seems to be lynch-mobbing this Zimmerman cat who, I'll admit, does seem like a shady character. At the very least, he's a bit overeager.

If you think he's overeager, why are doing back flips to try and paint Martin as someone to be su ious about. It's obvious you're only admitting Zimmerman was overeager to avoid looking completely re ed trying to argue he was right to pursue Martin.

However, that doesn't mean that TM is completely without fault or that Zimmerman was completely without cause for pursuing him.

Zimmerman was a self appointed neighborhood watch who is not in any way licensed to pursue possible criminals. Even if he saw Martin smash a window in and leave a house with a TV, he should call the cops and that's it.

Regardless, your reasoning here is ridiculous. He's wearing a in hoody and maybe walking slowly, the only reason you'd think he looks su ious is racism.

Maybe TM was just walking down the sidewalk, drinking an iced tea and eating Skittles.

But maybe he wasn't. I'm only attempting to leave room for doubt.

"He mighta been innocent, but he mighta been guilty!"

I'm glad cops don't have the at ude you and Zimmerman have.

[Fabbs]

Su ious behavior!

Her altered screwdriver is for working on RumpDump and Goran.

[Winehole23]

Yup. You provided it already.

That's right, I posted in this thread. But how could I possibly know which posts you take exception to, if you don't specify any posts? I'm not a mind reader.