Trayvon Martin - black kid armed with skittles killed in "self-defense"

[DMX7]

The reaction he got, from both sides, proves that. And they know that. It's the wingnut creed that the ends justify the means. And in their world, race-baiting is necessary.

There was no race baiting - absolutely none. You're living inside the republican fact-free bubble.

[GSH]

This is total BS. He was very Presidential and to say his statement was hateful is ridiculous. Zimmerman's father's comments were irresponsible.

Trayvon's parents insisted that the person calling for help was not their son. Then, when it was necessary for their narrative, they said that it was absolutely their son.

Trayvon's parents said that their boy could never do anything to incite another person, and that he didn't get kicked out of school for "anything illegal". And when the facts proved those things wrong, they insist that people are smearing their son's name. Doesn't matter that those things were nothing but a rebuttal of the lies they told.

Trayvon's parents trademarked "I am Trayvon" and "Justice for Trayvon" to make a buck off the death of their son.

Don't talk about irresponsible parents, you twit.

[Spurminator]

It's amazing how you can present perfectly reasonable arguments on one hand and still be distracted by ridiculous talking points like "Obama's comments were race-baiting." Are you really that easily manipulated?

[Spurminator]

I can only imagine the reaction if Bush had said that.

You would have supported him, you partisan .

[Spurminator]

Obama commented on what was a ty situation where a kid died by basically saying "It's a ty situation where a kid died." If you've read more into it than that, it's because you're easily manipulated by people who prey on stupid people to push an agenda. There's really not much more to say about it than that.

[DMX7]

Trayvon's parents insisted that the person calling for help was not their son. Then, when it was necessary for their narrative, they said that it was absolutely their son.

Trayvon's parents said that their boy could never do anything to incite another person, and that he didn't get kicked out of school for "anything illegal". And when the facts proved those things wrong, they insist that people are smearing their son's name. Doesn't matter that those things were nothing but a rebuttal of the lies they told.

Trayvon's parents trademarked "I am Trayvon" and "Justice for Trayvon" to make a buck off the death of their son.

Don't talk about irresponsible parents, you twit.

Just exposed yourself as completely full of again.

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The family attorney, Natalie Jackson, told RadarOnline.com exclusively: "I want to set the record straight, the trademarks were applied for so that no one can profit from or promote their own agendas using Trayvon Martin. Trayvon's parents will never seek to financially profit from these trademarks, period. I can't emphasize that point enough. They haven't even been able to mourn his death because they are seeking justice for his death.

"Their son is dead and it's insulting for people to think that they are thinking about profiting from this horrific tragedy. It's sad that there are those out there that are attempting to make money off of Trayvon's death and that his parents had to do this."

[DarrinS]

You would have supported him, you partisan .

Lol gfy

[Creepn]

ANYWAY, new witness did not indicate any head slamming on concrete. He said the fight was on the grass. Those who said that Zimmerman's life was facing death because of the head slam goes out the window.

Another thing the witness stated was that although he couldn't tell who was on top, he indicated that Zimmerman was the one on top. He said, he heard the shot and the person got up really quickly. He didn't see anybody sliding out from under the body.

[SnakeBoy]

He's guilty of something and if he's not guilty of anything in Florida law then Florida law is ing re ed.

If the new accounts are true and he was returning to his vehicle and it was Martin who instigated the the assault then what would Zimmerman be guilty of?

[Creepn]

If the new accounts are true and he was returning to his vehicle and it was Martin who instigated the the assault then what would Zimmerman be guilty of?

That's not the new account. New witness indicated they weren't near the car.

[SnakeBoy]

That's not the new account. New witness indicated they weren't near the car.

In his version of events, he had turned around and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from behind, the two exchanged words then Trayvon punched him in the nose, sending him to the ground, and began beating him.

Zimmerman told police he shot the teenager in self-defense...

Zimmerman told them he lost sight of Trayvon and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from the left rear, and they exchanged words.

Trayvon asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no and reached for his cell phone, he told police.

UPDATE -- A later story adds "Zimmerman told police he he'd lost sight of Martin and was heading back to his car when the youth suddenly stepped into his path. According to the Sentinel, Martin asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no and reached for his cellphone. Martin then said something like, "Well, you do now" and punched him, according to the Sentinel's sources............

And though it doesn't really sound true to me -- an unarmed teenager approaching, confronting and then attacking a larger man who'd been following him? -- the Sentinel story tells us that "much of it has been corroborated by witnesses, authorities say."

I initially felt there was no way Zimmerman wasn't guilty of at least voluntary manslaughter but now I'm just reserving judgement until the facts really come out. The media and police are doing a horrible job so far.

[Fpoonsie]

He said the fight was on the grass. Those who said that Zimmerman's life was facing death because of the head slam goes out the window.

Concrete or not, how boutchoo let the next street brawler you mix it up with repeatedly slam your head into the grass, and you tell me how pillowy soft the ground is...

[Creepn]

Concrete or not, how boutchoo let the next street brawler you mix it up with repeatedly slam your head into the grass, and you tell me how pillowy soft the ground is...

ah here you go again with your stupid ebonics again . Anyway, having your head slammed into MUD since it was raining doesn't really equate to the same damage as concrete.

And again, no witnesses claim to see any head slamming.

[jack sommerset]

Guy will walk. I thought he was straight up guilty but now I have doubts. Demons were involved and that's all I know. God bless.

Ps someone start a thread on healthcare and the supreme court.

[Nancy Grace]

The tape shows Zimmerman in hand cuffs. When you arrest someone the cuffs come out. That means he was under arrest until the decision was reversed.

[Fpoonsie]

ah here you go again with your stupid ebonics again . Anyway, having your head slammed into MUD since it was raining doesn't really equate to the same damage as concrete.

And again, no witnesses claim to see any head slamming.

I still don't get the "ebonics" smack.

And you don't KNOW that it was mud. , we don't even KNOW it wasn't on concrete. Every story seems to contradict.

[Creepn]

George Zimmerman was fired from his job as an under-the-table security guard for “being too aggressive,” a former co-worker told the Daily News.Zimmerman, at the center of a firestorm for shooting an unarmed black teenager a month ago, worked for two different agencies providing security to illegal house parties between 2001 and 2005, the former co-worker said.“Usually he was just a cool guy. He liked to drink and hang with the women like the rest of us,” he said. “But it was like Jekyll and Hyde. When the dude snapped, he snapped.”The source said Zimmerman, who made between $50 and $100 a night, was let go in 2005.“He had a temper and he became a liability,” the man said. “One time this woman was acting a little out of control. She was drunk. George lost his cool and totally overreacted,” he said. “It was weird, because he was such a cool guy, but he got all nuts. He picked her up and threw her. It was pure rage. She twisted her ankle. Everyone was flipping out.”The year 2005 was a bad one for Zimmerman: he was arrested for fighting with a cop trying to arrest his friend for underage drinking, and he and his ex-fiancée took out protective orders against each other.The former co-worker, who is no longer in touch with Zimmerman, said he was shocked to hear what happened Feb. 26 in a gated community in Sanford, Fla.“He definitely loved being in charge. He loved the power.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1053223

[Creepn]

double post

[Wild Cobra]

Trayvon Martin was buried in Miami with a gunshot wound to his chest. But otherwise, according to Richard Kurtz, the funeral director who prepared Martin for burial, his body showed no injuries.

"We could see no physical signs like there had been a scuffle [or] there had been a fight," he said. "The hands -- I didn't see any knuckles, bruises or what have you. And that is something we would have covered up if it would have been there."


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...fight-on-body/

Richard Kurtz is not an expert on such things. Since martin died within minutes of the start of the beating, there would be no time for bruising to show. This is something the experts who do the autopsy would have to tell us. Not someone who applies makeup to dead people.

[Wild Cobra]

The guy was just arrested for resisting arrest and battery on a police officer. You want to tell me why he should have been allowed a concealed weapon?

Because 1... he was not convicted. 2... many of you want to say the police are racist. if so, maybe it was a false arrest against an Hispanic.

Manny, If you don't believe in innocent till proven guilty, then maybe you should move someplace like North Korea.

My God... lose rights without a conviction... You are crazy.

[Winehole23]

you mean like TM's recent history

Corroborated facts outrank wild speculation, surely, but granted: history ain't always pretty.

[ploto]

Since martin died within minutes of the start of the beating, there would be no time for bruising to show.

His body sat in the morgue for a number of days before it was prepared for burial. I would assume that scratches would still show even if there was no time for bruising to form.

[Sportcamper]

I assumed that Zimmerman was dressed in some type of security uniform which would identify him as a neighborhood watch person…The video show Zimmerman dressed in street clothes & let’s be honest Zimmerman looks like a thug…This does not bother you guys? Who cares if Martin popped Zimmerman, the kid was afraid of the guy who was stalking him….

[CosmicCowboy]

I assumed that Zimmerman was dressed in some type of security uniform which would identify him as a neighborhood watch person…The video show Zimmerman dressed in street clothes & let’s be honest Zimmerman looks like a thug…This does not bother you guys? Who cares if Martin popped Zimmerman, the kid was afraid of the guy who was stalking him….

[DarkReign]

I really do not give a flying about this media frenzy, but I just wanted to ask about something I had heard about this...

Is it true that Zimmerman's first name is actually Jorge, not George?

If so, what exactly does this change about the public perception and media outrage?

One would hope nothing but I have a feeling it changes things immensely. If true, it isnt White on Black crime, its Latino on Black crime which means no one particualrly cares again because there isnt anything to be outraged about.