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Both. And trade Blair a early second pick.
Indy was a motivated buyer that wanted to bring back the hometown kid (Geroge Hill). They'd been asking for him for a few years. The stars just finally aligned.
You seriously over-value Dejuan Blair. He'll net us a second rounder (maybe two if they're especially late picks). Nobody is going to give up a first for him.
Both. And trade Blair a early second pick.
Mel got it right. Never know what some front office will do.
Think about it. The three recent acquisitions were players that formerly belonged to three of the most dysfunctional FOs in the NBA.
If Diaw continues to perform as well as he has for the duration of the season - and the playoffs - I'd prefer to see the Spurs re-up him.
I admit I don't know a thing about Lorbek. I'd just prefer the Spurs to hedge their bets on the "known" veteran player versus the unknown and unproven Euro, who has absolutely no NBA experience.
Besides that, I'd rather see a poor-man's Horry replacement, than a potential Bonner replacement. The Spurs have enough 3-pt shooters - this season and probably next too.
Since re-signing Diaw will mainly depend on what he does with Spurs during the rest of the season, it's too soon to pick between Diaw and Lorbek. If Diaw is doing well, the question will be on the table since Spurs won't be able to sign both.
The success rates of those high level Euro guys coming over is pretty high, and they tend to be underpaid. In recent years, Splitter, Pekovic, Marc Gasol, have come over, and in general, have greatly exceeded their contracts, and Lorbek seems like an excellent fit next to Duncan/Splitter.
I really just wished they'd signed Diaw to the MMLE (either 1 year or 2 with a player option), so they could offer a contract as a non bird FA that would be close to a market offer, but I fully understand not spending that money with the tax.
Focus on the PRESENT assholes. We might not get any other chance at the big one after this season.
Lorbek is quite the risk as well. There is no guarantee that he even comes, pursuing him as the priority and you risk losing them both. Diaw to other bidders and while hoping Lorbek picks us. Next we have to hope that Lorbek grasps the Spurs system and impresses Pop enough to get some minutes. Even then, does an unproven player move ahead of Bonner and Blair on the depth charts to matter?
Pop has already shown that he is willing to play and use Diaw, and so far he looks like a nice fit. If Diaw continues to impress and plays well through-out the playoffs.. re-signing him would be the safe and smart choice. One way or another, I hope the next few months paint a crystal clear picture of Diaw so we don't have to make a difficult decision of Diaw vs. Lorbek.
They an amnesty Bonner and resign Diaw.
Agreed - and I am a Slovenian Lorbek fan...
Lorbek has a good basketball IQ but I expect him to need at least his whole rookie year to adapt to the NBA game and the Spurs.
This means he probably won't be in rotation for the 2012/2013 season playoffs. Will the Spurs still be contenders for the 2013/2014 season? TD and Manu will both 2 years older...
If the Spurs would get tossed out in the first round this year or there would be some major injury which would spark the rebuilding process then. Lorbek>Diaw. (even if Diaw plays great until the end of the season/playoffs)
In short:
-another playoff runs planned next 1-2 years -> Diaw
-rebuilding starts -> Lorbek
I assume it's not possible to amnesty a player then sign him again to a lower deal to clear some cap space? (e.g. Manu)
One thing to consider: if Lorbek says he really wants to come, in the hope of getting a better contract, then his rights suddenly have value.
The main issue with trading Blair for a pick is that the pick would likely be for a big... and there's no reason a team needing a big would take Blair over a pick.
On the other hand, was Hill really a superior player to Blair in the eyes of other FOs? I'm not sure, especially since some GMs might not look much further than Blair being a starter on a very successful team. And it's not like he doesn't have some highlight reels...
well, just to make you all happy, I claim that at least there is a chance that the Spurs sign both.
well let's design a very player friendly contract. offer Lorbek a 4 years / 12 million contract with a player option for the 4th year. this contract would start at 2.8M per and go up to 3.2M in the 4th year. I assume this is about what he can get in Europe, maybe even slightly better overall (ignoring that KPB will jump in and explain that in E he will get something like 5 times this number).
if he succeeds in the NBA, he can opt out 2015 (he will be 31 then) and likely make some more for another 3 or more years.
I think he will accept this deal.
so Diaw could be offered a 3 years / 7 million deal starting at 2.2M. (or a 4 years / 9.4 M contract) last year is a PO as well. so he would be in a team with Tony till Tony's contract with Spurs expires.
I agree that this might not be enough. but do we expect many teams offer a much better deal for a 30 years with a record of bringing 20 extra pounds every summer? I doubt it.
Lorbek says yes and gets what he deserves.
Diaw, if the Spurs make a lot of noise in playoffs, shall easily get a better offer in a big man loving league.
I agree with you. Blair will be valuable for the right team as an energy big man coming from the bench. But the problem is that the team who would be a potential buyer can very well get one from the draft itself without that much of a drop off, if what is said about it being a big man loaded one is true.
Don't you think that this year is the last year to have a complete drive for 5?
^anyone?
Thats the historical precendent around here. Oberto basically sat out a year to adjust, playing very small amounts of minutes. Splitter was in a similar boat, playing smaller minutes for a season as he adjusted.
Lorbek would probably be managed similarly.
right, but Fab joined a championship team that had (outside Tim) Rasho, Nazr, Rob and Marks so there was just to much compe ion to get big minutes. the year after his compe ors for PT were the aging Rob, Elson, Bonner and Butler. I think if Fab joined the 2006-07 team in his first year, he gets more PT immediately.
why Splitter only got that little PT last season is still an enigma, especially considering he was producing on a pretty nice PER number. I want to believe that Pop has learned from this when he realized how muchTiago could have helped vs. the Grizzlies.
so I think Lorbek would get more PT than Fab and Tiago in their first season.
(assuming Lorbek takes Bonners spot and Bonner gets the amnesty)
I really think both players will be in play next season. I still think the spurs will use there amnesty on Bonner this summer freeing up a little extra $ and also open up 2 spots for bigs.
It's hard to give Pop a pass on Splitter's playing time because he refuses to admit how stupid and shortsighted his decisions were.
Why can't we have both?
We need both.
Me thinks Diaw allows Lorbek to get acclimated while making Bonner or Blair expendable. If Blair can get us a first round draft pick that is decent then that would be the way to go.
Ya, I cannot see Blair by himself getting a lottery pick, but if you can package him with neil, then you might get yourself a mid 1st rd pick in my opinion..just a thought
Because both salaries would have to fit inside the MLE and that appears extremely unlikely. One of them would have to accept a salary that is well below market value.
Btw, using the amnesty on Bonner would do nothing to change the situation.
It offers a roster spot, does it not? Just wondering how the 3.6 mil in freed up cash does not aid in re-signing TD or Green?
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