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    No trolling here, it's a legit question IMO..

    I'd still put him in the top 15, but barely..his FG% is down to 42, and his 3-point % is around 27 or 28 after this game..Bynum and Gasol have him dominated in virtually every meaningful advanced stat, too..

    He's an average defender, and he's been an average closer this year, IIRC..

    Lebron, Durant, Howard, Rose, Paul and Wade are unquestionably better..Dirk and Love are probably better IMO..

    Is Kobe better than Bynum, Deron Williams, Blake Griffin, Russell Westbrook, Lamarcus Aldridge, etc?..

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    Last ten games, not even top 20.

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    Timely troll post. 8/10 tbh.

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    Someone's upset that 3 fell through

    If that were LeBron in the same situation he would've passed it to Joel Anthony for a 15-footer

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    " Thank you Mitch for not trading Gasol "


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    Hard to say. I'm inclined to put him somewhere in the 15-20 range right now.

    Here's question to lakerfans - Would you guys trade Kobe for James Harden straight up? Forget about making the trade work $ wise. Just hypothetically if you could trade Kobe for James Harden straight up (OKC is suddenly burdened with paying Kobe $30M/year, LA gets Harden's contract), would you do it?

    I think if we were dealing with rational actors, the answer would undoubtedly be "yes," but the problem is you have delusional Lakerfans like Lkrfan who think the mere idea of Kobe not being a top 15 player has to be a troll post/troll thought. I'd be interested to see what he thinks.

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    If that was Lebron, Lakers win by 30..

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    Someone's upset that 3 fell through

    If that were LeBron in the same situation he would've passed it to Joel Anthony for a 15-footer
    so true


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    A "go spurs go" emoticon? You jumping on the Spurs bandwagon now

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    If that was Lebron, Lakers win by 30..
    if that was lebron. who takes the last shot? bynum or gasol?

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    A "go spurs go" emoticon? You jumping on the Spurs bandwagon now
    I'm taunting HH. Turn on your sarcasm meter.

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    They wouldn't need a last shot..

    If Lebron played for the Lakers, they would rarely play in a close game, tbh..

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    They wouldn't need a last shot..

    If Lebron played for the Lakers, they would rarely play in a close game, tbh..
    Even in the 4th qtr of any game in the Finals? ... Or are you saying Bynum/Gasol>Wade/Bosh?

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    If that was Lebron, Lakers don't go down to the wire with such a team like New Orleans missing 75% of their starters.

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    If that was Lebron, Lakers don't go down to the wire with such a team like New Orleans missing 75% of their starters.
    Non-issue

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    lol you guys aint giving any respect to the man.

    i hate kobe as much as the next guy, but for those writing off what he did have never played a single game of basketball.

    to struggle throughout the whole game like that and then make the last shot like it was nothing. what was kobe like 0-20 and pulls up for the last shot to win it. He has no conscious.

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    lol you guys aint giving any respect to the man.

    i hate kobe as much as the next guy, but for those writing off what he did have never played a single game of basketball.

    to struggle throughout the whole game like that and then make the last shot like it was nothing. what was kobe like 0-20 and pulls up for the last shot to win it. He has no conscious.
    +1
    Staring down the barrel of his worst shooting performance ever, with the game on the line, he calmly sinks the go-ahead 3-pointer w/o hesitation. Does that sound like a mentally weak individual to you?

    DPG

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    The way he's playing recently, I wouldn't put him in the Top 15 category.

    Not in order

    Lebron
    Durant
    Rose
    Wade
    Westbrook
    Bynum
    Kevin Love
    Cp3
    Deron
    Dwight
    Blake
    tony parker
    lamarcus aldridge
    duncan
    nash


    I mean seriously, can anyone here say with confidence, that they'll take Kobe's 38% shooting for the past 20 games over these players?

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    +1
    Staring down the barrel of his worst shooting performance ever, with the game on the line, he calmly sinks the go-ahead 3-pointer w/o hesitation. Does that sound like a mentally weak individual to you?

    DPG
    No. It sounds like someone who is an idiot.

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    +1
    Staring down the barrel of his worst shooting performance ever, with the game on the line, he calmly sinks the go-ahead 3-pointer w/o hesitation. Does that sound like a mentally weak individual to you?

    DPG

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    as his FG% goes down he'll take more & more shots to maintain his pts/game above 20, he never cares if the teams wins or loses tbh.

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    No. He's been horrible for the entire month of March except for the @Dallas game

    Bynum is their best player right now. I'm starting to doubt Kobe now.

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    if he accepts a smaller role and plays like duncan does wit them spurs, he can still make positive impacts on him but he ain't nowhere close to the "top" anymore now tbh

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    No. He's been horrible for the entire month of March except for the @Dallas game

    Bynum is their best player right now. I'm starting to doubt Kobe now.
    I always like your posts. You don't have a lot of bias. I still don't think Bynum is their best player. His at itude is a bit off if you know what I mean. Given the right role, I think Gasol could be their best player. I watch the Lakers and Pau IMO has been such a great glue guy for that team. I don't blame him for not pounding the ball inside, it seems like Mike Brown has turned Gasol into a Ilgauskas type of player. But Gasol still makes plenty of great play. I like the fact that he always looks out for Bynum in the post.


    if he accepts a smaller role and plays like duncan does wit them spurs, he can still make positive impacts on him but he ain't nowhere close to the "top" anymore now tbh
    This is correct. Its not like he can't be a Top 10 player but his role as a scorer needs to be diminished. A 23ppg 6 rpg 6apg Kobe is still Top 10 IMO. At this point, ot should be about making his teammates better.


    But Durant is only .17ppg away from tying Kobe in the scoring race, thats why you see Kobe trying to hard to secure that average.

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    I'm starting to doubt Kobe now.
    How the can you say that?

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