It became racial because the majority of the people heard " ing coons". Honestly I don't see white vs black crime or latino vs black crime because racism is practiced by the individual no matter what they are. I really hope that people understand this, especially the angry blacks who are so emotionally attached to this. But I can understand white people trying to point out that Zimmerman is hispanic.
Its amazing how so many conversations I enter into on this board turn into me somehow having to justify I've never even said. Why do people automatically assign viewpoints to someone based on some completely unrelated political philosophy?
So you're obviously against capital punishment because you like pizza. Obviously.
This forum specializes in straw.
Carrying concealed is not a right.
Hand this man a CHL please.
His daddy's a retired judge. That's a license to kill.
Still, you don't lose your legal privileges by an arrest alone. Nit pick if you want, but the arrest was dropped.
New twist to the ongoing saga......
Texas lawyers offer $10,000 for George Zimmerman's legal defense
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...-legal-defense
The group represents gun owner self defense which is fine and dandy but they are taking a huge risk contributing for Zimmerman imo.
Forensic's expert rules out Zimmerman crying for help...
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...ific-certaintyAs the Trayvon Martin controversy splinters into a debate about self-defense, a central question remains: Who was heard crying for help on a 911 call in the moments before the teen was shot?
A leading expert in the field of forensic voice identification sought to answer that question by analyzing the recordings for the Orlando Sentinel.
His result: It was not George Zimmerman who called for help.
Tom Owen, forensic consultant for Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence, used voice identification software to rule out Zimmerman. Another expert contacted by the Sentinel, utilizing different techniques, came to the same conclusion.
What kind of uniforms do self appointed neighborhood watch people wear?
It seemed obvious from the get go there was no way to identify Zimmerman as any kind of security.
Goran dufus got trolled.
15 minutes of fame
Yeah I always find those guys suspect.
As the Trayvon Martin controversy splinters into a debate about self-defense, a central question remains: Who was heard crying for help on a 911 call in the moments before the teen was shot?
A leading expert in the field of forensic voice identification sought to answer that question by analyzing the recordings for the Orlando Sentinel.
His result: It was not George Zimmerman who called for help.
Tom Owen, forensic consultant for Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence, used voice identification software to rule out Zimmerman. Another expert contacted by the Sentinel, utilizing different techniques, came to the same conclusion.LOL...
15 minutes of fame
No .
48% match... wasn't 0%...
I'll bet the software doesn't account for heart rate, adrenaline, sound at a distance through windows, etc. Then what type of phone? Land line, cell phone, etc. this will make a difference on the quality, and screaming has higher pitches than the nominal low pass filtering of voice systems that is around 3400 to 3600 hz.
The scream vs. a voice... Did they ask Zimmerman to scream for them like he was wetting his panties?
Sorry, I don't believe software can do what he tried to do with any reliability. 48% is probably as close of a match as they will get with anyone.
Last edited by Wild Cobra; 03-31-2012 at 08:53 PM.
C'mon Manny. Read it again. No baseline for either one. Not even a comparison of any kind for Martin. You really call that science? Definitive proof?
15 minutes....*poof*
....I was agreeing with you...
I gave Manny the benefit of doubt, thinking he meant the analyst was full of .
Yep. Blood spattering dork Asian guy that OJs defense team hired. Lots made him sound like the cats meow.
....I was agreeing with you...
Sorry.
I get punchy with Bouchump always biting my ankles.
Any bets on if Owen hurt his business or not?Tom Owen, forensic consultant for Owen Forensic Services LLC
Free publicity.
The software compared that audio to Zimmerman's voice. It returned a 48 percent match. Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent.
Yes, but he is so wrong about being able to assess such a thing with any degree of confidence.
I'll bet this will hurt his business.
I will agree under normal situations. How many screams for help has he analyzed under such situations accurately before?Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent.
And... there are at least two witnesses who say it was Zimmerman crying for help, and I think I heard there is a third.
Owen Forensic Services LLC
The problem is that you can't "rule him out" simply because you can't confirm it was him.
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