What about a repeat felon arrested for murder?
it's funny that fake "conservatives" are afraid of the government regulating their guns. You know because the cons ution protects gun ownership, in case the citizens need to revolt against the government. Like that makes a lot of sense, a few gun nuts vs. the US Armed Forces
but in the case of civil liberties, they could give 2 s. "take it all, as long as I get to keep my guns"
it is flabbergasting
"supported probable cause"
@ the concept of civil liberties in jail. You weenies clearly don't get it.
If they are going into the general jail/prison population they have already lost a load of rights. They have to control contraband in prisons. Searches on entrance are the easiest way. Cant' believe you guys are so worked up about this unless you have already had the prostate exam in the past.
So you're ok with violating a person's right to privacy as long as there is "probable cause"."supported probable cause"
lol smh
huh, I think we are all talking about detainment/arrest not serving jail time. You have not been proven guilty by the courts and you are not "joining the general prison population"
If they are going into the general jail/prison population they have already lost a load of rights. They have to control contraband in prisons. Searches on entrance are the easiest way. Cant' believe you guys are so worked up about this unless you have already had the prostate exam in the past.
I would suggest you read the 4th ammendment:
The Fourth Amendment (Amendment IV) to the United States Cons ution is the part of the Bill of Rights which guards against unreasonable searches and seizures, along with requiring any warrant to be judicially sanctioned and supported by probable cause. It was adopted as a response to the abuse of the writ of assistance, which is a type of general search warrant, in the American Revolution. Search and arrest should be limited in scope according to specific information supplied to the issuing court, usually by a law enforcement officer, who has sworn by it.
I don't think you understand how detainment works.
A distinction without much difference. If you are arrested, you are going to jail until you bond out. The police have a vested interest in ensuring that you aren't bringing contraband into jails. It would be unworkable to differentiate between bringing someone in on a nonviolent Class C Misdemeanor warrant or for something more serious.
supposedly we got this far without strip searches for everyone. why is it necessary now, if it wasn't in the past?
Why is it unworkable? Jails were doing it already. Also, I don't think the argument is over whether you can search someone upon entering jail, it's whether you can perform an invasive strip search.
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But you will not join the "general jail population"
it takes over 24-48 hours for your pneumonia, background and blood test results to come out. Until that comes out they do not mix you into the "general population".
for minor/traffic violations in no way shape or form they will hold you over 24 hours. (unless you have an outstanding warrant, then that's not minor)
I'm not sure you know what side of the fence you are on.
Lol.
This appears to me to have been decided on the basis of "Well, the expedient thing to do is to subject everyone to this search (regardless if they have been found guilty or not) because the jails are so crowded that it is hard to decide who to search and who not to otherwise."
Doesn't that reasoning sound liked they are just saying that it is too hard to do it any other way and so your right to 'no unreasonable' search is not as imperative as the government's right to expedient processing of a jail population?
After all his whining and complaining of strip searches, Che apparently isn't aware he ended up agreeing with the SCOTUS in this case.
Rofl.
Where do you believe the line should be drawn as to what reasonable is and/or what type of detainee should be strip searched?
wrong. still against strip searches for minor/traffic violators.
My argument was that 99 out of 100 cases, they won't enter the general population so there was no need for strip searches.
Now for that guy that was held for 6 days, we'd have to know the details if he was processed and entered into the general population or where he was being held.
He had a warrant for his arrest. According to you, that's not minor.
You agree with the ruling.
Lol.
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