Santorum: You cannot take American History courses at the University of California

[RandomGuy]

Santorum is a bonehead, with some of the things he says, so it's hard to be sure. I think he was probably parroting what someone else had told him, because I seriously doubt that he took the time to research the course catalogs.

Like I said, I don't know, but maybe the person was referencing the fact that the history courses that are taught all come with some peculiar ideological slant. This is one of the few "plain" American history courses at Berkeley. It could just as easily be called "How the White Man Kept a Brother Down". I'm pretty sure that there were some interesting historical things that happened between settlement and Civil War, but they don't teach them.

The United States from Settlement to Civil War -- History (HISTORY) 7A
There are two main themes: one is to understand the origin of the "groups" we call European-Americans, Native-Americans, and African-Americans; the second, is to understand how democratic political ins utions emerged in the United States in this period in the context of an economy that depended on slave labor and violent land acquisition.

I dunno, that seems to be the two main themes of events in early US history. I would be hard pressed to think of different themes for that time period.

It is sad when taking a realistic view, warts and all, about our history is somehow wrong.

Santorum obviously was parroting something he heard, I agree (see post 112 for probable source)

What does that say about him, especially given the context of his "dutch euthanasia" and "evolution is a lie" beliefs/comments?

What does it say about a sizable portion of the Republican base that they would support such a man?

[RandomGuy]

I don't see that as a 3 digit HIUS number. Do you?

Relevence?

I would point out that it is awfully hard to see things when you have your head up your ass.

Try taking it out, maybe that will help.

[vy65]

Santorum is a bonehead, with some of the things he says, so it's hard to be sure. I think he was probably parroting what someone else had told him, because I seriously doubt that he took the time to research the course catalogs.

Like I said, I don't know, but maybe the person was referencing the fact that the history courses that are taught all come with some peculiar ideological slant. This is one of the few "plain" American history courses at Berkeley. It could just as easily be called "How the White Man Kept a Brother Down". I'm pretty sure that there were some interesting historical things that happened between settlement and Civil War, but they don't teach them.

The United States from Settlement to Civil War -- History (HISTORY) 7A
There are two main themes: one is to understand the origin of the "groups" we call European-Americans, Native-Americans, and African-Americans; the second, is to understand how democratic political ins utions emerged in the United States in this period in the context of an economy that depended on slave labor and violent land acquisition.

No upper level history course would be "objective." All history is ideologically slanted one way or another.

[vy65]

What does that say about him, especially given the context of his "dutch euthanasia" and "evolution is a lie" beliefs/comments?

What does it say about a sizable portion of the Republican base that they would support such a man?

[GSH]

What does it say about a sizable portion of the Republican base that they would support such a man?

It says that they like some of the things he says, so they put their heads in the sand and totally disregard all the other dangerous and stupid he says.

See: Obama, Barack

[RandomGuy]

No upper level history course would be "objective." All history is ideologically slanted one way or another.

I would generally agree. Some realities, however, like rampant genocide and slavery... don't really lend themselves to slants or spin. Not that people don't try.

[vy65]

I would generally agree. Some realities, however, like rampant genocide and slavery... don't really lend themselves to slants or spin. Not that people don't try.

lol turkey

[RandomGuy]

It says that they like some of the things he says, so they put their heads in the sand and totally disregard all the other dangerous and stupid he says.

See: Obama, Barack

Wrong answer.

What does it say that those people actively embrace those dangerous and stupid things?

These people don't like him in spite of the dangerous stupid he says, they like him BECAUSE of the dangerous stupid he says.

[RandomGuy]

lol turkey

Yup. Ask a nationalist about Armenia.

[GSH]

Wrong answer.

What does it say that those people actively embrace those dangerous and stupid things?

These people don't like him in spite of the dangerous stupid he says, they like him BECAUSE of the dangerous stupid he says.

You're now the sole source of knowledge about what other people are really thinking. I offer up a possibility, and you can immediately shoot it down, because you KNOW what other people are thinking?

You know they have a diagnosis for that, don't you?

[RandomGuy]

You're now the sole source of knowledge about what other people are really thinking. I offer up a possibility, and you can immediately shoot it down, because you KNOW what other people are thinking?

You know they have a diagnosis for that, don't you?

You're now the sole arbiter of pshychological diagnoses. I offer up an explanation, and you shoot it down, because you are the sole arbiter?

You know they have a word for that, don't you?

[RandomGuy]

Seriously though, have you listened to the things his supporters say about why they like him?

Don't take my word on it. Go out and find the footage.

It is scary.

[vy65]

You're now the sole source of knowledge about what other people are really thinking. I offer up a possibility, and you can immediately shoot it down, because you KNOW what other people are thinking?

Rick understands that our freedom to practice our faith is not just under attack through the redefinition of marriage, but in nearly every facet of the popular culture. As a member of the United States Senate, Rick authored the “Workplace Religious Freedom Act” to ensure individuals of all faith could not be discriminated against while on the job. Rick also founded the Congressional Working Group on Religious Freedom to ensure that the principle of Freedom of Religion would not be infringed upon.

America is suffering a pandemic of harm from pornography. A wealth of research is now available demonstrating that pornography causes profound brain changes in both children and adults, resulting in widespread negative consequences. Addiction to pornography is now common for adults and even for some children. The average age of first exposure to hard-core, Internet pornography is now 11. Pornography is toxic to marriages and relationships. It contributes to misogyny and violence against women. It is a contributing factor to pros ution and sex trafficking.

Every family must now be concerned about the harm from pornography. As a parent, I am concerned about the widespread distribution of illegal obscene pornography and its profound effects on our culture.

For many decades, the American public has actively pe ioned the United States Congress for laws prohibiting distribution of hard-core adult pornography.

Congress has responded. Current federal “obscenity” laws prohibit distribution of hardcore (obscene) pornography on the Internet, on cable/satellite TV, on hotel/motel TV, in retail shops and through the mail or by common carrier. Rick Santorum believes that federal obscenity laws should be vigorously enforced. “If elected President, I will appoint an Attorney General who will do so.”

The Obama Administration has turned a blind eye to those who wish to preserve our culture from the scourge of pornography and has refused to enforce obscenity laws. While the Obama Department of Justice seems to favor pornographers over children and families, that will change under a Santorum Administration.

I proudly support the efforts of the War on Illegal Pornography Coalition that has tirelessly fought to get federal obscenity laws enforced. That coalition is composed of 120 national, state, and local groups, including Morality in Media, Family Research Council, Focus on the Family, American Family Association, Cornerstone Family Council of New Hampshire, Pennsylvania Family Ins ute, Concerned Women for America, The Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, and a host of other groups. Together we will prevail.

[MannyIsGod]

College Catalogs are hard to navigate. Nothing like a parts manual.

[LnGrrrR]

Santorum is a bonehead, with some of the things he says, so it's hard to be sure. I think he was probably parroting what someone else had told him, because I seriously doubt that he took the time to research the course catalogs.

Like I said, I don't know, but maybe the person was referencing the fact that the history courses that are taught all come with some peculiar ideological slant. This is one of the few "plain" American history courses at Berkeley. It could just as easily be called "How the White Man Kept a Brother Down". I'm pretty sure that there were some interesting historical things that happened between settlement and Civil War, but they don't teach them.

The United States from Settlement to Civil War -- History (HISTORY) 7A
There are two main themes: one is to understand the origin of the "groups" we call European-Americans, Native-Americans, and African-Americans; the second, is to understand how democratic political ins utions emerged in the United States in this period in the context of an economy that depended on slave labor and violent land acquisition.

How many "plain" history courses do most colleges offer?

[RandomGuy]

The true conservative vision wins because it is hopeful with a belief in free people and limited government.

...except porn. that i"m all for spending as much money as it takes to fight the War on Pornography.

When pornagraphy is outlawed, only outlaws will have pornography.

Lookin' at boobies makes you a criminal. DUN DUN DUN.

[RandomGuy]

The policies of President Obama have moved us in exactly in the wrong direction. These job killing policies and increased regulatory barriers and burdens have made oil and gas exploration a low priority for America, virtually halting exploration.

Wow. Oil and gas exploration have "virtually halted".

ROFL...

Having thoroughly read the annual statements of one of the largest natgas producers, as well as Exxon's, I will say that is utter bull .

Yet there are people who believe that. Why?

[DarkReign]

someone should take WC's "don't euthanize me" bracelet.

I spit my sandwich out onto my desk, thanks.

[Oh, Gee!!]

"Culture" is a socialist buzzword.

[RandomGuy]

"Culture" is a socialist buzzword.

Unless of course it has the word "American" in front of it. Or "western".

Then it is ok.

Because studying other cultures is, you know, snobbish.

[resistanze]

Wow at this thread.

[Drachen]

The United States from Settlement to Civil War -- History (HISTORY) 7A
There are two main themes: one is to understand the origin of the "groups" we call European-Americans, Native-Americans, and African-Americans; the second, is to understand how democratic political ins utions emerged in the United States in this period in the context of an economy that depended on slave labor and violent land acquisition.

L/R 020. History of the United States to 1865. (A) History & Tradition Sector. All classes. Richter.
An analysis of American society from the founding of the Colonies to the outbreak of Civil War. Topics to be emphasized include: the interaction among European, Indian and African cultures in the New World; the shaping of the distinctive American character; the creation of an independent nation-state; and the crisis of the Union. Special attention will be given to biographical profiles of the men and women who helped shape American history during this period.

Looks to be pretty much the same. I chose University of Pennsylvania because it's his home state.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

"Culture" is a socialist buzzword.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...07&postcount=1

[ElNono]

How did I miss this thread?

[MannyIsGod]

How did I miss this thread?

Perhaps you thought it was just a high school requirement.