A San Antonio shooting for you guys to argue...

[CosmicCowboy]

Let's picture the same situation with two differences:

One, it was a friend or loved one being followed instead of Martin.

Two, Zimmerman doesn't have a gun.

So on Monday, your friend/loved one is telling you about this creepy guy following him/her, and how your friend/loved one turned on him and beat the out of him.

Is your first thought, "My god, you could have really hurt him, you were in the wrong" or is it, " yeah, good job, that will teach him not to snoop"?

My response to my friend/loved one would be that they were damn lucky and don't ever do that again because you have to assume that everyone has a gun.

[ElNono]

Sounds like a drug deal gone bad... what does it have to do with the Martin case?

[Blake]

LOL, butthurt are we?

The article clearly stated:



The plea deal was to drop the murder charges if he agreed to plead guilty to the drug charge.

What part of that didn't you understand?

ing idiot.

I'm waiting for you to lay out where the judge had a hand in the deal.

Yes, butt hurt you are.

Cosmic dumb .

[CosmicCowboy]

I'm waiting for you to lay out where the judge had a hand in the deal.

Yes, butt hurt you are.

Cosmic dumb .

The judge HAS to accept the plea deal.

What the are you arguing?

[diego]

Here. You want to talk about the relative innocence of a victim? The "youths" involved in this hate crime have been charged with disorderly conduct and one with robbery. All the cries for hate crime in the Trayvon case were about politics.

I'm sure you'll have some witty comebacks about how/why this doesn't count.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/kill...ivated-attack/

Except for that comparison to be analogous to the martin case, the youths would not be arrested for anything, and the old man would be dead.

[Blake]

Figures...the judge was a mexican american...just taking care of their own...

The judge HAS to accept the plea deal.

What the are you arguing?

My claim is that you don't know .

There's no evidence here of anything but nolle prosequi. That's why I've been asking you where you are getting that the judge was taking care of his own.

Or are you now going to try to claim the blue font again?

Either way, you are a huge ing idiot.

[CosmicCowboy]

My claim is that you don't know .

There's no evidence here of anything but nolle prosequi. That's why I've been asking you where you are getting that the judge was taking care of his own.

Or are you now going to try to claim the blue font again?

Either way, you are a huge ing idiot.

It was sarcasm you ing idiot. The claim was made in the other thread that Zimmerman wasn't arrested because the responding officer was hispanic and "taking care of his own".

I even explained it to you once already.

Are you REALLY that stupid?

[George Gervin's Afro]

This may surprise you, but there's a small difference between a guy who was trying to steal drugs that got shot because he tries using spray paint, and another black kid who was innocent and got followed, then attacked his follower.

You're getting as bad as Yoni.

he doesn't get it..

[CosmicCowboy]

he doesn't get it..

Of course I get it. This guy really did get away with murder and y'all aren't outraged because the media didn't tell you to be outraged.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Of course I get it. The guy still got away with murder.

apples vs oranges

but I know you know that ..you are simply being intellectually dishonest.. you have proven that time and time again in this thread..

[CosmicCowboy]

apples vs oranges

but I know you know that ..you are simply being intellectually dishonest.. you have proven that time and time again in this thread..

You obviously don't even know what intellectually dishonest means.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Looks like another mexican shooting a black guy and getting away with it.

Are you trying to make yourself look like a bigot? Its apparent you do not see it but dear lord.

Location, felony crimes being committed, relationship between the victim and perp etc. I get that you do not like black advocacy groups but for s sake just stop.

[CosmicCowboy]

Being intellectually dishonest is you claiming Zimmerman should be convicted of murder while defending this shooter getting off.

[CosmicCowboy]

Are you trying to make yourself look like a bigot? Its apparent you do not see it but dear lord.

Location, felony crimes being committed, relationship between the victim and perp etc. I get that you do not like black advocacy groups but for s sake just stop.

LOL, I was just bored and fishing for a rise...that being said, was what I sad factually incorrect?

[Oh, Gee!!]

Being intellectually dishonest is you claiming Zimmerman should be convicted of murder while defending this shooter getting off.

both should be prosecuted tbh; but what does a prosecutor's decision about a case in SA have to do with the shooting in FL? it's not like the ST resident dems dropped the SA case.

[CosmicCowboy]

both should be prosecuted tbh; but what does a prosecutor's decision about a case in SA have to do with the shooting in FL?

In both cases the dead guy initiated the violence that led to his death.

[Blake]

It was sarcasm you ing idiot. The claim was made in the other thread that Zimmerman wasn't arrested because the responding officer was hispanic and "taking care of his own".

I even explained it to you once already.

Are you REALLY that stupid?

So theres no real correlation from that case to this one, but you still claim there should be the same outrage.

I think you've proven plenty of times on this board just how stupid and butthurt you can be. This thread is no exception.

[Oh, Gee!!]

In both cases the dead guy initiated the violence that led to his death.

according to each suspect, and they are both full of crap. so what?

[CosmicCowboy]

So theres no real correlation from that case to this one, but you still claim there should be the same outrage.

I think you've proven plenty of times on this board just how stupid and butthurt you can be. This thread is no exception.

I got idiots like you to attack the same arguments in this thread that you defended in the other thread.

It was actually quite entertaining.

[Blake]

In both cases the dead guy initiated the violence that led to his death.

So give your expert legal opinion why the murder charge was dropped.

[ElNono]

Being intellectually dishonest is you claiming Zimmerman should be convicted of murder while defending this shooter getting off.

I agree.

I also think when an unarmed person winds up shot and dead under questionable cir stances, the shooter will be charged and a jury will get to the bottom of it. It's not unreasonable, I think.

[ElNono]

In both cases the dead guy initiated the violence that led to his death.

Was that established in the Martin's case?

[George Gervin's Afro]

Being intellectually dishonest is you claiming Zimmerman should be convicted of murder while defending this shooter getting off.

I haven't once stated he should be convicted of murder..wrong again..shocking..

He should be found guilty in causing this kid's death though whether it be manslaughter or negilent homicide. There was no reason for him to approach the kid. zero. I don't blame the kid for trying to defend himself from some dude who was following him in the middle of the night.. the only reason zimmerman followed him is because he had a gun.

Do you think the kid would have died had Zimmerman not followed him? simple yes or no question

[CosmicCowboy]

So give your expert legal opinion why the murder charge was dropped.

The rational explanation would be that the shooter (who was dealing at wholesale drug levels) tipped them to a major supplier/distributor in exchange for reduced charges. It happens all the time and that's how LE makes the majority of their big drug busts. The fact that that guy that got murdered was a low life made it easier to sell to the judge.

[George Gervin's Afro]

The rational explanation would be that the shooter (who was dealing at wholesale drug levels) tipped them to a major supplier/distributor in exchange for reduced charges. It happens all the time and that's how LE makes the majority of their big drug busts. The fact that that guy that got murdered was a low life made it easier to sell to the judge.

so the cases have zero similarities..