It (the WSJ) is owned and published by the Murdoch Empire.
'Nuff said?
Personally I find the WSJ op ed page great. Especially when they cover science news. Anyone who blindly follows what they say is fairly unreachable, but those who are honestly open minded are able to be shown how they pretty much just flat out lie about things.
Glad to amuse you guys. At the least, you can see why an article can make such a claim. I wonder what the full context of what Santorum was saying is, especially just before the quotes we saw.
Take what you want out of this, I know it doesn't change how you feel about me, and I don't give a anyway. Still... isn't o possible that what lead up to this is that most the UC colleges do not have an actual American History curriculum? Just a class here or there?
Go back and consider my words when I first posted. It was because the Mad Cow opened her mouth. She rarely says anything true by the time she is done spinning it.
I will stick to my assertion that only the 100, 200, and 300 series classes count, and that le alone doesn't matter. One of the classes someone listed before was a "women's studies class." Not a history class.
Glad you all had you fun. DarkReign... sorry about your sandwich.
No, we can't.No, you don't.I wonder what the full context of what Santorum was saying is, especially just before the quotes we saw.
No, it isn't possible.Take what you want out of this, I know it doesn't change how you feel about me, and I don't give a anyway. Still... isn't o possible that what lead up to this is that most the UC colleges do not have an actual American History curriculum? Just a class here or there?
No, we won't.Go back and consider my words when I first posted. It was because the Mad Cow opened her mouth. She rarely says anything true by the time she is done spinning it.
No, you're wrong.I will stick to my assertion that only the 100, 200, and 300 series classes count, and that le alone doesn't matter. One of the classes someone listed before was a "women's studies class." Not a history class.
If I'm wrong, then so be it.
At least I got a bunch of you guys to help me look up information.
Thanks.
Oh, it be.
No, thank you.
WC, still waiting for you to point out another college with a great deal of these "plain American History" classes.
How would he know. He went to Mansfield Technical School so he could become a trained partschanger.
Dude, it wasn't just one claim, the WSJ article had several. All massively, stupidly, easily provably wrong.
The context was that liberals hate america, and that half-assed, false assertion was used to support that thesis.
Don't try to bull his/your way out of it.
Bull .
1) Define "rarely"
2) Prove it.
Bull has been called. Either you can support this statement, or we can, rightly, reject it.
LOL @ WC being the Republican version of mouse.
This thread does change how I feel about you, not that I think you care, or should care.
I think much less of you.
Instead of admitting you were wrong, you double down on, then when shown to be wrong AGAIN, you double down on it AGAIN.
Duck, dodge, and obfuscate is all you did, in the most thoroughly dishonest, and sloppy way possible. Your problem now is that it is really, really clear that is exactly what you did. You removed any shadow of doubt anyone had that you have any shred of credibility on anything.
FWIW, I still think the "parts changer" stuff is mean, and unwarranted.
(In general, curricula are made up of classes here and there.)
Nevermind... I'm tired of feeding the WC troll.
He's not trolling.
Well, I didn't mean it quite like that. I'm not going to go back and look at the words I said, not worth the time. I meant history that wasn't focused on some agenda. Most the courses I found by that time that had "history" in the le, were not history classes anyway. I also specified several times that I was looking for 100, 200, or 300 series classes. Right or wrong, my perception of a college class are those series classes that are transferable to other colleges.
Now I may be wrong about this, but I don't think I am...
The three UC colleges that I accepted as having history classes all had searchable HIUS numers. (History US.) The other seven did not. Right or wrong, I was using those standards, and right or wrong, I assumed the entire UC system retains the same class numbering sequence.
Maybe my standards are higher than the rest of you?
I wasn't going by the WSG article. I was going by the limited information provided at the start of the thread. Now what I failed to do, because I was so busy doing other things, and only focused on finding actual American History courses, was... I didn't do other searches. I didn't see what Santorum's statement was in full context. I think it would be important to see what preceded those words.
I really wish you wouldn't assume things about me. Others may applaud you, but really. I am so different than most of you that all I do when you guys assume so incorrectly about me is think... Damn... he is real ing stupid.
That's is correct. However, you guys fail to acknowledge what I was looking for, and at every opportunity, attacked me rather than trying to see my viewpoint.
Not my bad, but you guy's bad.
WC's initial reply to the thread:
Depends on what Santorum meant by "American History." It could have narrow or broad meaning. Technically, I think it refers to American History from Colonization-Reconstruction and Reconstruction-Current. Those are your standard American History courses. I know UT offers a bunch of them (or did, anyway). Would be strange if UCLA didn't offer them. And if not, then why?
I agree, context matters. I still haven't looked up to see if I could find a transcript, and frankly, it's not that important to me. However... only 3 of the 10 UC colleges offer more than a few history classes. Most the ones with history in their name is not a history course either.
Point them out you lying piece of . UCB, UC, UCD, UCSB, UCSC, UCLA, etc all offerred the typical two lower division that your dumb ass still attempts to deny as well as upper division courses. You have been linked all of thir course catalogs in this thread.
Your issue is that some of the upper division classes talk about race and gender so you try and diminish them. Seeing that your a racist stalker this comes as little surprise. Nonetheless, you suck at sophistry.
Because it's a liberal pinko college that wants to deprive students of American history!
BULL .
Maddow gave enough of the clip to see it in full context.
, I spoon-fed it to you. "Liberals are bad, California, run by liberals hates America. Look they dont' even have American history courses in colleges."
You don't want the "full context", don't lie to me. It's ing irritating.
You want something you can spin to make it seem like Santorum is less of an idiot for believing and regurgitating something stupid.
This is what you do when you paint yourself into a corner. Instead of having a shred of intellectual honesty and man up that some politician you like ed up, or that you ed up, you grasp at straws, and then build the thinnest of cases out of some "context", with a side order of "liberal media bias".
Bull .
You still haven't proven that Maddow "rarely tells the truth", by the way.
Are you going to stand by that or slink away from it?
... because history majors are so in demand in the job market. That just doesn't make any sense, I know.
, I can't see why all these colleges run by liberals don't spend more money on history courses, given the massive current demand from Exxon, Apple, IBM, Freescale, Coca-Cola for history majors.
All you have to do is key in "histotry degree" in the website of those companies, and you get hundreds of hits each about jobs for history majors.
http://www.exxonmobil.com/Search/sea...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
http://www.ibm.com/search/csass/sear...n&cc=us&en=utf
http://www.apple.com/search/?q=histo...=global&geo=us
http://search.coke.com/search?q=hist...e=utf8&ie=utf8
The only possible explanation is that liberals hate US history, history in general, and the free market.
Last edited by RandomGuy; 04-06-2012 at 08:27 AM.
Not really. Maybe your standards are just a construct of the stranglehold that confirmation bias has upon you.
Santorum is an idiot. These are the things that we know.
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