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    Ron Paul isn't likely to go Libertarian or independent, I think, because he may not want to piss the GOP off and thus harm Rand's future opps
    I never said he would.

    dumper, we all know that you're still crossing your fingers on that new car and house that Obama promised you back in 2008 when you voted for him.
    Never voted for him and he never promised anything of the sort, but thanks for making it about me. Would you like for me to make it about you next?

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    Sure. But come on, you're gonna tell me you're not an Obama supporter? You posts and tone seem to state that you are.

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    Sure. But come on, you're gonna tell me you're not an Obama supporter? You posts and tone seem to state that you are.
    Not really. He's a fantastically mediocre president.

    I just pick on right wing idiots and whiners more here because they say stupid like Obama promised everyone a house and car in 2008 much more often.

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    Latest CA Primary poll:

    Romney 44%
    Santorum 23%
    Gingrich 12%
    Paul 12%

    http://www.surveyusa.com/client/Poll...9-83cc40996df1

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    Practically no one votes for him in the primaries.
    12% is practically nothing

    "Dumpster, how would you like 12% raise on your 25,000 janitor salary?"
    "no thanks, it's practically nothing"

    "Dumpster, there's 12% chance of catching aids through anal sex"
    "it's practically nothing, put it in"


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    Although I think that is pretty incredible that although he doesn't get electorals, the ones he gets come in full force. However, it doesn't matter how big he is in California, since that state is an all or nothing state and very blue. FTR I hope he has enough clout at the end of this to get a Sec of State.

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    12% is practically nothing

    "Dumpster, how would you like 12% raise on your 25,000 janitor salary?"
    "no thanks, it's practically nothing"

    "Dumpster, there's 12% chance of catching aids through anal sex"
    "it's practically nothing, put it in"

    Yep, 10-12% is practically nothing in these contests.
    Practically nothing as in he wins nothing and will have no influence on the convention.

    You say practically nothing in all of these threads.

    Give us your prediction about how Paul becomes a kingmaker and who it will be. It's your argument.

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    Why do people hate Ron Paul and why do people love to hate Ron Paul? I just don't get it.

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    Why do people hate Ron Paul and why do people love to hate Ron Paul? I just don't get it.
    Because they have to actually read and learn something. Because if they learn about Ron Paul it would mean they would have to admit that their loyalty is to the bad ones. Takes too much work. They'd rather go with the norm. They'd rather do what society tells them. It's easier. They don't really have to do anything.

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    12% is practically nothing

    "Dumpster, how would you like 12% raise on your 25,000 janitor salary?"
    "no thanks, it's practically nothing"

    "Dumpster, there's 12% chance of catching aids through anal sex"
    "it's practically nothing, put it in"



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    Because they have to actually read and learn something. Because if they learn about Ron Paul it would mean they would have to admit that their loyalty is to the bad ones. Takes too much work. They'd rather go with the norm. They'd rather do what society tells them. It's easier. They don't really have to do anything.
    You guys who support Paul are sooooooooooooooooooooooooo damn wise.

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    FYI - not thinking Paul has any real influence of consequence and hating Paul are too completely different things. Some of you are just flat out delusional.

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    You guys who support Paul are sooooooooooooooooooooooooo damn wise.
    What I said is actually true for a majority of people who hate on him. Let's at least agree that RP is the ONLY honest man running for office, there is no doubt about that. Amazing how that isn't important to people.

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    What I said is actually true for a majority of people who hate on him. Let's at least agree that RP is the ONLY honest man running for office, there is no doubt about that. Amazing how that isn't important to people.
    I think Ron Paul is a politician. You should know what that means. I'll give you that Ron Paul definitely speaks his mind more and says things others wouldn't but thats only because he's a congressman from a unique district.

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    It's sad and pathetic that Republican voters care more about voting for a candidate that may beat Obama more than voting for a candidate that is consistent and knows what the they're talking about and doesn't pander to anyone.

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    It's sad and pathetic that Republican voters care more about voting for a candidate that may beat Obama more than voting for a candidate that is consistent and knows what the they're talking about and doesn't pander to anyone.
    I agree, but unless we install runoff elections, it will be like that.

    Most people try to make the safe vote. People are sore of especially 3rd party candidate. Most republicans believe that Ross Perot took mostly Bush (41) votes, making Clinton president for example.

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    True but Ron Paul being a 3rd party candidate might give hope to future 3rd party candidates. Ron Paul has enough supporters where he could get the required 15 percent in the national polling therefore allowing him to be in the debates with Barry and Willard.


    Whether you love or hate Ron Paul, the man is a badass. That crowd at UCLA proves it.

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    True but Ron Paul being a 3rd party candidate might give hope to future 3rd party candidates. Ron Paul has enough supporters where he could get the required 15 percent in the national polling therefore allowing him to be in the debates with Barry and Willard.


    Whether you love or hate Ron Paul, the man is a badass. That crowd at UCLA proves it.
    I don't think he would want to guarantee a win for Obama.

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    I think Ron Paul is a politician. You should know what that means. I'll give you that Ron Paul definitely speaks his mind more and says things others wouldn't but thats only because he's a congressman from a unique district.
    He is a politician. Like how even though he will vote against bills like crazy, it doesn't stop him from loading said bills with pork for his district.

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    which to me is pretty disingenuine

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    I don't think he would want to guarantee a win for Obama.
    I think he would take just as many obama votes. Plus there is already a libertarian candidate if people where looking for a ron paul type in the general

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    I think Ron Paul is a politician. You should know what that means. I'll give you that Ron Paul definitely speaks his mind more and says things others wouldn't but thats only because he's a congressman from a unique district.
    this makes no sense. Paul says what he says because he's from a unique district? are you saying any other politician in a unique district acts the same??

    Yes Paul is a politician, but he's the unique one. Name another politician that has not changed his tune one bit since the 1980s. That's 30 years. Add to that one that has predicted the 2008 collapse? Add to that one that does not talk to lobbyists. Add to that one that wants to stop the unfair drug war. Add to that one that wants to stop the illegal wars abroad. Add to that one that wants to protect the civil liberties of all citizens. Add to that one that wants to audit the Fed.

    not a single one.

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    a few thousand more yesterday at UC Berkley


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