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    Trainwreck of a starting lineup. How many days before we declare that Pop is just subbing guys in at random with no regard for how they're actually producing or playing together?
    My thoughts exactly.

    How do you not start Splitter next to Blair? Splitter is arguably the best Spur after the Big Three, and yet when they sit he doesnt start?

    And no Kawhi Leonard in the starting line-up? Danny Green fits in nicely in our usual starting line-up but tonight he didn't need to be out there so much. Kawhi or Neal should have had his spot. Really disappointed by Leonard's relatively low minutes last night as well.

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    Tiago has never been a leader and IMO he'll never be one however luckily Spurs don't need him as leader at least atm.

    I slightly disagree about the statement game from him. He didn't play bad at all. If you check the grades again you'll see he got the best grade among our players although I thought timvp was quite generous as far as grade for Tiago. Don't you forget he only played 26 minutes and in the 4th quarter his teammates failed to pass the ball to him many times especially in the last minutes of the game. So it is obvious he doesn't get respect from refs as well as some of his teammates.

    IMO we're facing a different problem. timvp pointed out long ago in one of these countless "Free Tiago" threads. Tiago doesn't start over Blair cause Pop sees the first one as 4 and Splitter as 5. But when Tim sits out for the night and Tiago isn't a starter, what sort of message is Pop sending to Splitter? I don't trust you.

    If it is true, FO should address this issue trading Splitter in the offseason to someone chosen by Pop, cause Splitter still has good trading value.
    Not at all. When Blair sat, Diaw took his spot. When Duncan sat, the same. The remaining three fourths of the big rotations stay in their normal places in the rotation.

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    God opposing. Viewpoints really bother you don't they.


    Settle the down

    Opposing viewpoints don't bother me at all.

    Your post makes zero sense.

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    Very generous grade for Tiago imo...

    Eh I thought he played well.

    The Neal grade is about the only I disagree with.

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    Eh I thought he played well.

    The Neal grade is about the only I disagree with.
    So you say Bonner has his best game of the year, he gets a C- & you don't disagree?

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    Not at all. When Blair sat, Diaw took his spot. When Duncan sat, the same. The remaining three fourths of the big rotations stay in their normal places in the rotation.
    Mel I'm talking about yesterday. Tim as we know had a night off then Blair & Diaw were starters.

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    Mel I'm talking about yesterday. Tim as we know had a night off then Blair & Diaw were starters.
    I was talking about the two Utah games. One big was rested in each game. Diaw took the place of the missing big in each game allowing the other three bigs to remain in their normal rotation spots.

    Much more likely explanation than "Pop doesn't trust Tiago".

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    So you say Bonner has his best game of the year, he gets a C- & you don't disagree?

    Bonner's had a ty year.

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    I was talking about the two Utah games. One big was rested in each game. Diaw took the place of the missing big in each game allowing the other three bigs to remain in their normal rotation spots.

    Much more likely explanation than "Pop doesn't trust Tiago".

    Yeah but it's so much fun to rip the out of pop....

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    Tiago has never been a leader and IMO he'll never be one however luckily Spurs don't need him as leader at least atm.

    I slightly disagree about the statement game from him. He didn't play bad at all. If you check the grades again you'll see he got the best grade among our players although I thought timvp was quite generous as far as grade for Tiago. Don't you forget he only played 26 minutes and in the 4th quarter his teammates failed to pass the ball to him many times especially in the last minutes of the game. So it is obvious he doesn't get respect from refs as well as some of his teammates.

    IMO we're facing a different problem. timvp pointed out long ago in one of these countless "Free Tiago" threads. Tiago doesn't start over Blair cause Pop sees the first one as 4 and Splitter as 5. But when Tim sits out for the night and Tiago isn't a starter, what sort of message is Pop sending to Splitter? I don't trust you.

    If it is true, FO should address this issue trading Splitter in the offseason to someone chosen by Pop, cause Splitter still has good trading value.
    Bingo. It's only been pointed out numerous times to these s.

    How (or why) should Tiago take on additional leadership responsiblities when he's been repeatedly disrespected and maligned by the coaching staff dating back to last season. If they don't respect him enough as a player to even make him a starter in Duncan's absence that's says volumes about what they think of his abilities.

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    Lol disrespected and maligned.


    Give me 3.5 million a year to play basketball if that's maligning and disrespecting me...


    Idiots.

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    Bonner's had a ty year.
    He's had the best year of his career, IMO.

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    He's had the best year of his career, IMO.

    I think he played better last year.

    Defensively? Yeah he's been better this year.

    Offensively? I just don't think so. Overall? A downgrade.

    JMSO

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    Not at all. When Blair sat, Diaw took his spot. When Duncan sat, the same. The remaining three fourths of the big rotations stay in their normal places in the rotation.
    Such a bull excuse, but as expected.

    As I recall the last time the big 3 sat Bonner got the nod as the starter. "Normal places" LMAO

    Pop just plays whatever lineup is catching his fancy for that particular day. And seeing as Tiago has been struggling with confidence issues, it certainly wouldn't have hurt to give him a starting role after two years of service.

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    As usual, someone is relying on faulty recollections, as expected.

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    Can we all not be happy and peaceful? We nearly won a game in Utah without Timmy, Manu and TP for gods sake. Lets start ing when we lose to the Lakers with our full roster ... which I do not think will happen by the way ...

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    I'm glad a traded down my tickets last night. I did get a bunch of autographs last night though, and I also go some one on one with RC. Good times.

    Pretty cool JR3, thanks for sharing.

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    Such a bull excuse, but as expected.

    As I recall the last time the big 3 sat Bonner got the nod as the starter. "Normal places" LMAO

    Pop just plays whatever lineup is catching his fancy for that particular day. And seeing as Tiago has been struggling with confidence issues, it certainly wouldn't have hurt to give him a starting role after two years of service.


    Tiago is struggling with confidence issues?

    Who is he Hedo Turkaglo?

    Why should his confidence be worried about and not say, Dejuan Blair's?

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    He's had the best year of his career, IMO.
    He's had a ty career.

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    My thoughts exactly.

    How do you not start Splitter next to Blair? Splitter is arguably the best Spur after the Big Three, and yet when they sit he doesnt start?

    And no Kawhi Leonard in the starting line-up? Danny Green fits in nicely in our usual starting line-up but tonight he didn't need to be out there so much. Kawhi or Neal should have had his spot. Really disappointed by Leonard's relatively low minutes last night as well.
    That second unit that was so good, and was even better when Jefferson was replaced by Jack, seems like a distant memory.

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    That second unit that was so good, and was even better when Jefferson was replaced by Jack, seems like a distant memory.


    You can't remember last Friday night?

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    Attention spans these days...

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    You can't remember last Friday night?
    Splitter played ten minutes in a blowout against the worst team in the west, and one guy from that second unit is starting. When exactly did this happen in your estimation?

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    This was a winnable game but the Spurs executed poorly in the last few minutes. Pop made a mistake by sticking with Neal as the PG and didn't put Mills back into the game until there was a minute or two left. Neal was good for most of the game but the offense collapsed in the second half of the 4th. Bonner also had the most minutes of any big...baffling since the Jazz have a good frontline.

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    Splitter played ten minutes in a blowout against the worst team in the west, and one guy from that second unit is starting. When exactly did this happen in your estimation?
    I have no idea what the "this" in your question means?

    And do you believe Jack has replaced Kawhi in the SL based upon last night?

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