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    Besides, all the dispatcher said is, "You don't need to do that." Not quite an explicit order.
    clear enough advice, though
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    The eyewitness accounts I've heard/seen state the fight took place on grass, not concrete. The eyewitnesses also state the sanford police department did not seem interested in their accounts that it was zimmerman on top and not martin.
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    What kind of authority did Zimmerman have to confront or follow Martin? Hmm?
    There being no proof he confronted him aside, as a citizen moving around in the common areas of a gated community -- one where the private property owners had been experiencing a rash of property crimes and of which Zimmerman was a property owner -- he had every right to try and keep a su ious person in sight until the police arrived.

    He had as much right to be where he was as did Trayvon Martin.
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    There being no proof he confronted him aside, as a citizen moving around in the common areas of a gated community -- one where the private property owners had been experiencing a rash of property crimes and of which Zimmerman was a property owner -- he had every right to try and keep a su ious person in sight until the police arrived.

    He had as much right to be where he was as did Trayvon Martin.
    he didn't own any property. he was a 30 something year old weirdo living in his parents basement.
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    Zimmerman disappearing looks even more su ious.
    Well, if the New Black Panther Party had put a price on my head and a series of "Remember Trayvon" assaults starting taking place across the country, I'd probably disappear, too.
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    The eyewitness accounts I've heard/seen state the fight took place on grass, not concrete. The eyewitnesses also state the sanford police department did not seem interested in their accounts that it was zimmerman on top and not martin.

    Eyewitnesses indicate they were fighting on a giant goose down comforter. There's no way zimmerman had head injuries.
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    The eyewitness accounts I've heard/seen state the fight took place on grass, not concrete. The eyewitnesses also state the sanford police department did not seem interested in their accounts that it was zimmerman on top and not martin.
    We haven't seen the forensic evidence collected at the scene and, to be sure, that it was raining will make it hard to collect but, as significant as Zimmerman's head wounds were, I'm pretty sure some trace evidence of blood or tissue could still be located on the spot of concrete where he alleges Trayvon Martin was beating his head against the sidewalk.

    Are you at all familiar with where the crime occurred?
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    Eyewitnesses indicate they were fighting on a giant goose down comforter. There's no way zimmerman had head injuries.
    And you wonder why I call you a deceptive piece of .
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    Yonivore-I am not implying that the Feds, Obama or Holder would do anything dishonest…I am saying that the moment the Department of Justice was handed this case Zimmerman is now in big trouble…This case has gone from a local police department which may have some qualified investigators to the Federal Government which has rocket scientists at their disposal…The Feds are the best of the best…These people are brilliant…They will dissect this every which way they can…

    I would hate to have them examine my life…
    Oh, I think this DOJ is dishonest but, even it can't make a state crime a federal one.
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    And you wonder why I call you a deceptive piece of .
    and I wonder why you do little else besides call other posters morons and on their heads...
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    he didn't own any property. he was a 30 something year old weirdo living in his parents basement.
    Okay, was he a resident or not?
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    We haven't seen the forensic evidence collected at the scene and, to be sure, that it was raining will make it hard to collect but, as significant as Zimmerman's head wounds were, I'm pretty sure some trace evidence of blood or tissue could still be located on the spot of concrete where he alleges Trayvon Martin was beating his head against the sidewalk.

    Are you at all familiar with where the crime occurred?

    Yes I am. It happened on grass. I don't even think there was that much blood if any at all by looking at the camera footage from the police department. didn't look like someone who was moments away from getting beat to death.


    She saw the fight take place and said they were 4 feet away from the concerete.

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    Okay, was he a resident or not?
    as much a resident as Trayvon was.
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    Oh, I think this DOJ is dishonest but, even it can't make a state crime a federal one.
    lol a bush war claiming another administration is dishonest...
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    Yes I am. It happened on grass. I don't even think there was that much blood if any at all by looking at the camera footage from the police department. didn't look like someone who was moments away from getting beat to death.


    She saw the fight take place and said they were 4 feet away from the concerete.

    1) Eyewitnesses are frequently wrong.

    2) You still don't have access to the forensic evidence.

    3) George Zimmerman was treated at the scene and his head and face were cleaned by medical attendants. He had a pretty serious laceration across the crown of his head...grass won't do that. But, let's go with your argument for a minute; you can also beat someone's head against the ground until they're unconscious in a grassy yard.

    4) Finally, even if the eyewitness is correct about where it took place, there could still be an object against which Zimmerman could have been having he head beaten against. About two or three feet, off the sidewalk, in one of the photographs I saw, there is a metal pole with doggie "poop bag" holder mounted on it.
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    and I wonder why you do little else besides call other posters morons and on their heads...
    Thats not all I do, that is only part of the diatribe. For someone that is supposed to be subtle, you certainly lack nuance.

    I do like how you do not take me to task over calling him deceptive or a sophist. Thats okay but hyperbole and metaphors are off limits?
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    say whatever you like
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    Oh, I think this DOJ is dishonest but, even it can't make a state crime a federal one.
    I could see them trying to make a case that Zimmerman as a neighborhood watch person was acting under the "color of law" and he responded to the altercation with excessive force violating Martins civil rights.
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    lol a bush war claiming another administration is dishonest...
    Fast and Furious.

    Yes, this is a lying Department of Justice.
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    @Fuzzy: the diatribe is your primary mode of expression on this board. odd that you would slight it....
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    And you wonder why I call you a deceptive piece of .

    lol. Your sarcasm detector sucks.
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    as much a resident as Trayvon was.
    No argument there. I haven't claimed Trayvon was doing anything illegal.

    That doesn't mean Zimmerman had no reason to find him su ious.
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    1) Eyewitnesses are frequently wrong.

    2) You still don't have access to the forensic evidence.

    3) George Zimmerman was treated at the scene and his head and face were cleaned by medical attendants. He had a pretty serious laceration across the crown of his head...grass won't do that. But, let's go with your argument for a minute; you can also beat someone's head against the ground until they're unconscious in a grassy yard.

    4) Finally, even if the eyewitness is correct about where it took place, there could still be an object against which Zimmerman could have been having he head beaten against. About two or three feet, off the sidewalk, in one of the photographs I saw, there is a metal pole with doggie "poop bag" holder mounted on it.

    where did you see the laceration?
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    Just heard on FoxNews that the Washington Post is reporting that Zimmerman WILL be charged.
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