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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    That, or she knew that the facts didn't warrant it but politically they had to prosecute and to "make it right" she set the bar so high they wouldn't possibly be able to reach it.




















    naaaa

    is going for her 15 minutes of fame...

    Court TV is gonna love this .

    *see Marcia Clark*

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcia_Clark

    So what you are saying is that this is all political and in your view Zimmerman should not have been charged?

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    That will come out in court and to go with this charge I would hope/think she has enough evidence to back up the charge.
    Why would you pick sides? If Zimmerman is innocent, I hope he's acquitted. If Zimmerman's guilty, I hope he's convicted.

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    Why would you pick sides? If Zimmerman is innocent, I hope he's acquitted. If Zimmerman's guilty, I hope he's convicted.
    I read his statement as "I would hope that she has enough evidence to back up her charge" not "I would hope that she gets the conviction"

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    why hasn't fox already cut away from his new lawyer?

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    I read his statement as "I would hope that she has enough evidence to back up her charge" not "I would hope that she gets the conviction"
    That is correct. I always felt there should have been an ongoing investigation and from what she said there was but the investigation was not completed before she was appointed. She was just being nice to the PD, IMHO.
    It is all up to the jury now.

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    Zimmerman will now be tried by a jury of his peers... that's all you can ask for.

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    Man, just imagine how interesting jury selection is going to be for this trial. This IS going to be something to check out. I assume the trial will be fair, but I'd love to take a look at the potential jury questionnaire, wouldn't you?

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    Zimmerman will now be tried by a jury of his peers... that's all you can ask for.
    I agree with you on the trial thing but I'm not convinced about the jury..for all we know his "peers" could be idiots.

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    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    i just wish all the speculation would end.

    all we know for sure is that a guy stalked another guy and killed him.
    Last edited by clambake; 04-11-2012 at 06:42 PM. Reason: crappy spelling

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    I agree with you on the trial thing but I'm not convinced about the jury..for all we know his "peers" could be idiots.
    That's our system of justice. tbh, should I be on those shoes, I much rather be tried by a bunch of idiots than "experts" like Nancy Grace et all.

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    I read his statement as "I would hope that she has enough evidence to back up her charge" not "I would hope that she gets the conviction"
    Fair enough.

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    Man, just imagine how interesting jury selection is going to be for this trial. This IS going to be something to check out. I assume the trial will be fair, but I'd love to take a look at the potential jury questionnaire, wouldn't you?
    If I'm Zimmerman and things went down like I claimed I would SO just let a judge decide and not throw it to a jury.

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    If I'm Zimmerman and things went down like I claimed I would SO just let a judge decide and not throw it to a jury.
    Oh, yeah. In a heartbeat.

    But if it did go to a jury...what a fascinating thing to watch.

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    That's our system of justice. tbh, should I be on those shoes, I much rather be tried by a bunch of idiots than "experts" like Nancy Grace et all.
    I think she's an idiot too though...

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    What sucks for Zimmerman too is that this got so politicized that I suspect it would be tough for his lawyer to get some sort of favorable plea-bargain...

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    Zimmerman needs a change of venue to the Florida panhandle.

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    If it does get to a jury, they will be able to issue jury instructions on lesser-included offenses, so the prosecution is not necessarily tied to second degree even in a trial.

    One question I'm interested in - how in the does Zimmerman get a fair trial in Florida? It's normally extremely difficult to get a change of venue for what's called "presumed prejudice" from pretrial publicity - Jeff Skilling's argument that he could not obtain a fair trial in Houston after the Enron collapse was rebuked by the Supreme Court. If Zimmerman is tried in Florida, it will be a huge issue.

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    If it does get to a jury, they will be able to issue jury instructions on lesser-included offenses, so the prosecution is not necessarily tied to second degree even in a trial.

    One question I'm interested in - how in the does Zimmerman get a fair trial in Florida? It's normally extremely difficult to get a change of venue for what's called "presumed prejudice" from pretrial publicity - Jeff Skilling's argument that he could not obtain a fair trial in Houston after the Enron collapse was rebuked by the Supreme Court. If Zimmerman is tried in Florida, it will be a huge issue.
    Where would he go to get a fair trial? If it is the racial thing, then Orlando is as good of a place as any in Florida.

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    Where would he go to get a fair trial? If it is the racial thing, then Orlando is as good of a place as any in Florida.
    A good question, though I disagree with it being a "racial" issue (though race is certainly involved here). It's more about the amount of pretrial publicity infecting any potential jury panel before voir dire is conducted. I think the defense has a good argument to at least get this trial moved out of state, though I doubt any state trial judge facing election will grant that request and outrage his or her cons uents.

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    A good question, though I disagree with it being a "racial" issue (though race is certainly involved here). It's more about the amount of pretrial publicity infecting any potential jury panel before voir dire is conducted. I think the defense has a good argument to at least get this trial moved out of state, though I doubt any state trial judge facing election will grant that request and outrage his or her cons uents.
    So if they do move it to a different state, which state penal codes are used?

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    So if they do move it to a different state, which state penal codes are used?
    Florida's state penal code would control.

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    They can't move it to another state but the Florida panhandle IS another state compared to the lower part.

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    We pretty much saw the trial already. Guy walks. If I was Zimmermans lawyer I would ask for the fastest trial imaginable. God bless.

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    We pretty much saw the trial already. Guy walks.
    The latter perhaps, the former not so much. Legal process is very hard to predict.

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    Where would he go to get a fair trial? If it is the racial thing, then Orlando is as good of a place as any in Florida.
    He's already been found guilty by the mainscream national media. I don't think we can get a fair trial if anything is on the fence.

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