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I know crime went way up in the area around my office after they built Haven for the Hopeless. My yard gets hit weekly and my truck has been hit twice.
http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.co...e-housing.htmlHuge savings from supportive housing for chronic homeless
Grits was interested to see a report out of California about a supportive housing program created for the 30 most expensive, chronic homeless people in San Diego, which reportedly has about 9,800 homeless folks citywide. What struck me is how a) a small number of homeless people account for a disproportionate share of cost to the taxpayers, and b) targeting services to a relatively small number of people resulted in significant savings. Reported the local NBC affiliate:
The initiative housed 30 homeless people in San Diego who were estimated to be costing taxpayers over $11 million in public resources, according to data from the project.Not every homeless person needs long-term supportive housing. Most homelessness is temporary and transitional, so for them, short-term supports are adequate. But for a small number of chronic homeless - particularly frequent flyers in local jails who may be arrested dozens of times on petty charges - the cost-benefit analysis of business as usual often reaches absurdist proportions.
The participants on average absorbed nearly $318,000 before entering the program, estimated in emergency room visits, ambulance transports, in-patient medical stays, arrests and jail days. Those who enrolled were often disabled and continuously homeless for over a year.
After almost a year of being in the program, analysts estimated that the cost of supporting the average participant was about $97,400.
Overall, the project resulted in a nearly 70 percent reduction in costs to taxpayers, the analysts said.
The problem with such programs is that the costs of homelessness are spread out among many en ies - the city, county, state, Medicaid, local hospitals, etc. - and not all those will pay into supportive housing. So the societal cost is tremendous but there is a free-rider problem among ins utions that would see costs reduced. On paper, taxpayers overall benefit tremendously. But in practice, when one arm of government pays the freight, the savings are so spread out that that en y may not see a reduction in their own bottom line.
That's why I think it's smart to target a handful of the most expensive, chronic homeless folks for a pilot, identifying people for whom the economics of supportive housing come out positive even for the government en y ponying up the bucks. This is not a problem which may be resolved with a snap of a finger. I'd like to see more Texas cities and counties take on this topic in the same way San Diego did: Start small, demonstrate the concept, and build on success. (Fort Worth has begun to embrace supportive housing, but in Texas they're an outlier.) Often government does nothing on homelessness - or relegates the issue to law enforcement - because doing everything needed would be so expensive that policymakers become paralyzed. In that context, chipping away at the issue around the edges is preferable to throwing up one's hands and simply declaring nothing can be done, or worse, criminalizing homelessness instead of focusing on reducing it.
I know crime went way up in the area around my office after they built Haven for the Hopeless. My yard gets hit weekly and my truck has been hit twice.
Yeah, why won't they just kill all these homeless people off already? Or at least keep them to a single parking lot, so I wouldn't have to see them.
I guess Lunger doesn't like homeless people. Pretty sad.
Or at least put up a big fence around them.
Seriously, it's not so funny when you are the one getting robbed.
Time to give Zimmerman a job as a security guard.
I wonder if there is a legal ground to sue the city for the change in robberies in the area?
Sue them for what?
How much it has gone up?
Understood, but there's really no good answer for the homeless problem. However, I do think the "Haven for the Homeless" idea is a better answer than "keep them on the streets".
I don't understand why they can't move them to a more country setting and let them have gardens etc. They are already providing them food, shelter, and medical treatment. Get them out of that urban street trash cycle/environment...
Probably doubled at least.
Back in February a sucker broke into my truck in broad daylight, stole dirty clothes, a dirty rodeo jacket, my "ranch" bankbag out of my console that had receipts, keys, paint codes, etc. in it (no money), a cutco skinning knife, a laser pointer and a checkbook that he then went right around the corner to Ace Check Express and forged a $200 check written to himself.
Police don't give a and they know it. sucker used his real name and SS# to cash the check and the police didn't do a ing thing about it.
Mother er is gonna be the baddest MF on the block with that cutco sheath knife...it was so sharp you could split hairs with it...unless he meets up with a Zimmerman with a 9mm.
If anybody wants to steal that suckers iden y his name is Gilbert Caldera and his SS# is 466-24-2794. It checks out...it's real
how could he do that? some kinda work release program? of course, he couldn't legally have a gun.
Was it SAPD? My house got broken into and they stole all my electronics and my gf's jewelry. My neighbor said he saw the kids down the street climbing through the window with my . I called the law; they took a police report and left. Nothing was ever done. After a few days they had pawned all my or whatever. I wasn't about to go down there brandishing a gun and throwing a hissy bit I did always kind of hope they would try it again.
Ever since then, I have pretty much hated the police.
WHen you are looking for a place to live, would that deter you to live in a house right next to one?
Why hate the police?
Why didn't you hate the people you knew stole your stuff?
I just told you that I was hoping they would try again. Now think why that would be the case? I also have harrassed by police in other incidents. In short no cop has ever done any good thing for me even when I needed it.
Why hate the police?
Why didn't you hate the people you knew stole your stuff?
Not sure. Probably. Like I said, there's not any easy answers I can see.
Numbers on homeless is crazy high. We all should say a prayer for them tonight. I have no idea how to help out over 500,000 of them. We were in DC last week and saw tons of them sleeping on concrete outside building housing our national treasures and where our leaders run the country. you would think if there was a way to shelter the homeless that place would be the first to figure it out, you should think that. God bless
You pay the police to help out in such situations. They don't. Fuzzy is probably upset that the police are stealing money from her.
Why hate the police?
Why didn't you hate the people you knew stole your stuff?
And you know this guy is tied to "Haven for the Hopeless" how?
My question would be: is this the govt responsibiliity? Take away the mentally challenged and disabled homeless, which there are alot. Is it the govt. responsibility to support an adult who chose his style of living? If government made a law where a pill made everyone more productive and unable to commit crimes. After an amount of time, The results show that the entire society is better off. Crime is at its lowest and everyone is more beneficial. Would that be ok? Do the ends justify the means?
In that same thinking, would annihilation of an entire country because every generation is trained and raised to harm Americans, would that be acceptable too?
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