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    Government Work: $205,000 to Move a Shrubbery

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    No, I’m not kidding. $205,075 to move a bush. That’s one bush. Not a stand of plants, not a small forest, not even a mighty California Redwood. A bush. The plant in question is called a Franciscan manzanita and is extinct. Except where it is found growing in people’s yards in California. And nurseries where they retail for about 16 bucks.

    Shortly after its discovery, the California Department of Transportation, the National Park Service, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and the California Department of Fish and Game, showing the fiscal sense of two drunken frat boys at a buy-one-get one free sale at a tattoo parlor came together and in what I am sure was a lengthy skull session, drafted a Memorandum of Agreement to move the plant from a median strip to the Presidio to safety.

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    At least there is a paper trail. See: $23B unaccounted for in Iraq.

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    Old news, and they have been finding the trail on it.

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    Believe. admiralsnackbar's Avatar
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    Old news, and they have been finding the trail on it.
    Oh?

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    While I do think it's likely that some wasteful spending went into this, the le and accompanying opinion article is misleading as . It wasn't just any "bush", and it didn't cost $205,000 to "move it".

    Now, you might not agree with spending money in saving plants from extinction, but that's a different topic altogether.

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    While I do think it's likely that some wasteful spending went into this, the le and accompanying opinion article is misleading as . It wasn't just any "bush", and it didn't cost $205,000 to "move it".

    Now, you might not agree with spending money in saving plants from extinction, but that's a different topic altogether.

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    While I do think it's likely that some wasteful spending went into this, the le and accompanying opinion article is misleading as . It wasn't just any "bush", and it didn't cost $205,000 to "move it".

    Now, you might not agree with spending money in saving plants from extinction, but that's a different topic altogether.
    It's a ridiculous waste of tax payer money and one of the reasons Californians are fleeing the state for more sensible governance, in places like Texas.

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    I just made $3000 off the federal government in 3 hours this morning. It took longer to do the paperwork leading up to the job than it did to do the job.

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    It's a ridiculous waste of tax payer money and one of the reasons Californians are fleeing the state for more sensible governance, in places like Texas.
    Debatable whether protection of natural resources is a waste.

    How many people are fleeing Yoni? crofl

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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    Debatable whether protection of natural resources is a waste.
    Simply being a plant doesn't make it an important resource of anything. What resource could be gained from that plant that couldn't be gained from all the other plants bulldozed to make way for the road?

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    Simply being a plant doesn't make it an important resource of anything. What resource could be gained from that plant that couldn't be gained from all the other plants bulldozed to make way for the road?
    All the other plants were not believed to be extinct in the wild.

    Some manzanita species are among the rarest plants in the world. The endemic Arctostaphylos hookeri ravenii (Presidio manzanita) is the most endangered and restricted plant in the mainland United States. In 1987 only one specimen remained, at a secret location in the Presidio of San Francisco National Historic Landmark District in San Francisco, California. This plant has since been successfully cloned. Arctostaphylos franciscana (Franciscan Manzanita), a species native to San Francisco, had not been seen growing wild since 1947 until it was spotted growing in the Presidio of San Francisco in October, 2009.

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    It's a ridiculous waste of tax payer money and one of the reasons Californians are fleeing the state for more sensible governance, in places like Texas.
    I hate to break it to you, but we're doing the same stuff here. I've worked on multiple projects here in Texas that could have had a similar story written about them.

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    How asshurt does one have to be to put that in their sig?

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    It's a ridiculous waste of tax payer money and one of the reasons Californians are fleeing the state for more sensible governance, in places like Texas.
    I lol'd. Sensible government and Texas do not belong in the same sentence.

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    Simply being a plant doesn't make it an important resource of anything. What resource could be gained from that plant that couldn't be gained from all the other plants bulldozed to make way for the road?
    Putting together the reasoning bellow the dense spin is pretty impossible, but I'd spec'late there must be a wide divergence between the domesticated manzanita tree that is so common and this wild instance.

    As for its value... if you can understand the genome and survival strategies of a plant adapted to a certain kind of terrain/climate, you can probably extrapolate that knowledge to engineer other flora to do the same, which is probably worth more to N. California agriculture than $300K.

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    I lol'd. Sensible government and Texas do not belong in the same sentence.
    It's all relative. You have to admit California is a lot flakier than Texas.

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    How asshurt does one have to be to put that in their sig?
    I can't see sigs but who did that?

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    Wild Cobra, of course.

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    How asshurt does one have to be to put that in their sig?
    Fuzzy should be proud.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    It's all relative. You have to admit California is a lot flakier than Texas.
    Texas Education policies take the cake.

    To be fair, I'm not sure California is any better because I'm not as aware as the way they run things.

    Also, as an aside as someone who has not been away from Texas for a couple of years, I appreciate the society there a lot more now.

    I think it has more to do with how bad NM is than how good Texas is, but everything is relative.

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    Fuzzy should be proud.
    I don't see what the big deal is tbh; WC pretty much ignores what is said in most posts when arguing.

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    Who the cares? 205k is a drop in the bucket.

    But holy is being a conservative commentator a ing racket. What the do the good people at townhallfinance.com do everyday? Comb the interwebs for some bull about Obama, or the gays, or abortion, and freak the out about it. I could easily do that. I can freak out about the "60 radicals in power." I can write a book about "Obama's Bloodiest Coverup."

    Seriously, these idiots write drivel and get to appear on national tv and make hundreds of thousands if not millions?

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    I don't see what the big deal is tbh; WC pretty much ignores what is said in most posts when arguing.
    True

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    Actually, I should practice my outrage . . .

    I shouldn't be surprised. This is the fine, gay/abortion/immigrant loving state of California wasting your hard earned tax dollars for a plant. A plant!

    I bet some of the lib- s over there in California must have thought you could smoke this bush.

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    Who the cares? 205k is a drop in the bucket.

    But holy is being a conservative commentator a ing racket. What the do the good people at townhallfinance.com do everyday? Comb the interwebs for some bull about Obama, or the gays, or abortion, and freak the out about it. I could easily do that. I can freak out about the "60 radicals in power." I can write a book about "Obama's Bloodiest Coverup."

    Seriously, these idiots write drivel and get to appear on national tv and make hundreds of thousands if not millions?
    I just went to the site home

    This is probably one of those "independent" sites WC goes for his news.

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