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    Hmmm... where did I read that before....

    And the general principle common to all such affidavits, whether for search, arrest or charging, is that it must “stand on its own” based on “what is within its four corners”

    Oh yeah... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-.../2872216/posts
    Not where I got it but, now you've got me wondering if my source or Free Republic said it first.

    Nice.

    It is my understanding that is correct. Is it yours?
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    Not where I got it but, now you've got me wondering if my source or Free Republic said it first.

    Nice.

    It is my understanding that is correct. Is it yours?
    Nope. It's mere opinion. One that the presiding judge didn't share, apparently.

    Fortunately, Zimmerman is still not guilty of anything. He will be tried and that will be determined then.
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    I see Yoni is still trying to convince himself.
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    I see Yoni is still trying to convince himself.
    Add not being above plagiarizing opinions to pretend he understands what he's talking about.
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    Yoni, if it makes you feel better, I am taking a sick day. I can't even access these forums at work. But I see how it works - I disagree with you (and whatever Articles you find) and so you feel the need to attack me to validate your opinion. Do not pretend that we are being civil if this is the way you operate. It is cowardly and you are pitiful.

    As to the affidavit, I already expressed that I had issues with it, but it's just a determination of probable cause. Not exactly a high burden. As it says at the bottom, not a summation of all the evidence and testimony that will be elicited at trial.
    Hi, I don't know if you're still here but if you are I was wondering if you could give an opinion on why the prosecution went for Murder 2 instead of manslaughter. Given the evidence that I've been seeing I thought manslaughter would've been easier to prove?
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    Add not being above plagiarizing opinions to pretend he understands what he's talking about.
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    ElNono.

    Ever give it a thought as to reasons why you could be wrong about the accuracy of Owen's voice analysis?
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    ElNono.

    Ever give it a thought as to reasons why you could be wrong about the accuracy of Owen's voice analysis?
    ...Really?
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    How about you?

    Did you follow the exchange where ElNono thought he was the , bringing up all the stuff I already knew about the way audio comparative software works? No answer went I asked if he thought the voice had a fingerprint also.

    You see, there are two key factors I did not bring up, that I haven't seen anyone else bring up. Care to guess what they are? It is very relevant as to why a best match could be around 50% by that software and short sample.
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    Did you follow the exchange where ElNono thought he was the , bringing up all the stuff I already knew about the way audio comparative software works? No answer went I asked if he thought the voice had a fingerprint also.

    You see, there are two key factors I did not bring up, that I haven't seen anyone else bring up. Care to guess what they are? It is very relevant as to why a best match could be around 50% by that software and short sample.
    Does any one person that reads WC think that his 'knowledge' about audio signal processing and analysis is anything more than what he could find on a google search?

    Anyone?
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    Hi, I don't know if you're still here but if you are I was wondering if you could give an opinion on why the prosecution went for Murder 2 instead of manslaughter. Given the evidence that I've been seeing I thought manslaughter would've been easier to prove?
    The hold your ground/self defense hurdle is the biggest one the prosecution has to climb on both charges. If they clear that one, they might as well go all in on murder 2.
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    ElNono.

    Ever give it a thought as to reasons why you could be wrong about the accuracy of Owen's voice analysis?
    We had a discussion over voice fingerprinting and analysis in general, specifically after you made some inane claims as to the underlying technology. And you were outed as a fraud not just by me, but also Sportcamper.

    Owen's voice analysis is his. Whether it's right or wrong I guess only Owen knows. Which really has nothing to do with the ignorant posts you made here with regards to the underlying technology.
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    We had a discussion over voice fingerprinting and analysis in general, specifically after you made some inane claims as to the underlying technology. And you were outed as a fraud not just by me, but also Sportcamper.

    Owen's voice analysis is his. Whether it's right or wrong I guess only Owen knows. Which really has nothing to do with the ignorant posts you made here with regards to the underlying technology.
    WC, I think that is a no. God bless
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    How about you?

    Did you follow the exchange where ElNono thought he was the , bringing up all the stuff I already knew about the way audio comparative software works? No answer went I asked if he thought the voice had a fingerprint also.

    You see, there are two key factors I did not bring up, that I haven't seen anyone else bring up. Care to guess what they are? It is very relevant as to why a best match could be around 50% by that software and short sample.
    I must have missed that post, whatever that was.
    Let first establish you know what you're talking about...

    Please describe under which cir stances you would not use a hidden Markov model for speaker recognition.
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    How about you?

    Did you follow the exchange where ElNono thought he was the , bringing up all the stuff I already knew about the way audio comparative software works? No answer went I asked if he thought the voice had a fingerprint also.

    You see, there are two key factors I did not bring up, that I haven't seen anyone else bring up. Care to guess what they are? It is very relevant as to why a best match could be around 50% by that software and short sample.
    This should be good. Illuminate me.
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    We had a discussion over voice fingerprinting and analysis in general, specifically after you made some inane claims as to the underlying technology. And you were outed as a fraud not just by me, but also Sportcamper.

    Owen's voice analysis is his. Whether it's right or wrong I guess only Owen knows. Which really has nothing to do with the ignorant posts you made here with regards to the underlying technology.
    So you haven't done any thinking about why you might be wrong. Why doesn't that surprise me?
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    The judge recused herself from the case citing a conflict of interest. I agree though that watching WC make an ass out of himself is entertaining.
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    Does anyone here think George will be found guilty? I don't. God bless.
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    This should be good. Illuminate me.
    The system compares various tonal qualities which make it more advanced than other methods. The specific shapes of out chest and head is why the software can work so well. However, samples are normally taken from sitting or standing. when you have one sample standing or sitting, and the other with a person laying on their back, that changes the way the chest cavity lays due to gravity. now you get someone holding you down, and that changes the chests resonance features even more.

    This, along with the stress, small number of sampling, scream vs. talking, all make for an understandable low match.
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    Does anyone here think George will be found guilty? I don't. God bless.
    I wish I had more details. My biggest fear is he will be innocent, but found guilty.
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    Does anyone here think George will be found guilty? I don't. God bless.
    I find him guilty of dumb ery
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    The system compares various tonal qualities which make it more advanced than other methods. The specific shapes of out chest and head is why the software can work so well. However, samples are normally taken from sitting or standing. when you have one sample standing or sitting, and the other with a person laying on their back, that changes the way the chest cavity lays due to gravity. now you get someone holding you down, and that changes the chests resonance features even more.

    This, along with the stress, small number of sampling, scream vs. talking, all make for an understandable low match.
    Oh. Modeling. Advanced? Perhaps. Accurate?
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    The specific shapes of out chest and head is why the software can work so well.
    Wrong
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    Does any one person that reads WC think that his 'knowledge' about audio signal processing and analysis is anything more than what he could find on a google search?

    Anyone?
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    OK...

    If you say so.

    We will disagree. I guess you will also claim if someone had extensive surgery to change the shape of their nasal cavities, the software will still be fine with that.
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