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    Of the last 10 NBA Champs, how many in reg season were 1st seed overall entire NBA?
    How many were 1st seed in their Conference?
    *exclude WWE rigged years of 2009 and 10.

    How hard should we/should we not pursue this? Memphis 2011.

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    CoachRumpHumper why don't you look it up yourself?
    Edit: I'll get us started.
    2002 Kings Champs and best overall reg season
    2003 Spurs were tied for 1st overall with Dallas. Not sure who won tiebreaker.
    2004 Detroit was neither overall or Conf best. (Indiana overall, MN West)
    2005 Spurs not (neither Finalist was Conf best. Phx Suns overall best)
    2006 Detroit#1 Spurs Best West 2nd overall. (Heat over _allas for Champ)
    2007 Spurs not by a longshot. Dallas 67-15.
    2008 Boston was the #1 overall and La gots were the #1 West. So 1 vs 1.
    2009 rigged
    2010 rigged
    2011 (Spurs #1 overall) Champion Dallas tied for 2nd West, 4th overall.
    2012 Spurs overall #1. Heat won Championship.
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    Tbh, why don't you look it up yourself?

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    Last year doesn't really count. The 2011 Spurs were badly dinged up and ran into a buzzsaw. This year's Spurs are MUCH deeper than last year's Spurs. We'd bounce the Grizz in 5 games, max.

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    point differential is more important/indicative

    except this year the Spurs messed up their point differential by forfeiting some games.

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    Tbh, why don't you look it up yourself?
    I like praising you for your research.

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    point differential is more important/indicative

    except this year the Spurs messed up their point differential by forfeiting some games.
    Yup...the point differential is probably the best indicator of potential playoff success.

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    point differential is more important/indicative

    except this year the Spurs messed up their point differential by forfeiting some games.
    I don't think it matters that much in the playoffs. Other than morale boosting and momentum swinging factors, a 1pt win is just as good as a blowout. Sometimes a gritty, close win is more of a motivator anyway.

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    okay i got it started up top.
    2 of 3 Spurs Championships we were NOT the #1 seed reg season.
    2005
    2007

    (2003 we finished tied for 1st. Not sure who won tiebreaker i think we did)

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    I don't think it matters that much in the playoffs. Other than morale boosting and momentum swinging factors, a 1pt win is just as good as a blowout. Sometimes a gritty, close win is more of a motivator anyway.
    in recent history, the Champs have been at or near the top of reg. season point differential. and the top teams in point differential that didn't win it all were usually very close, a couple plays away.

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    So you're saying…Good teams win playoff games?

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    2011 - Bulls overall #1, Spurs #1 in west neither makes finals, champs Mavs # 3 in west over EC # 2 Miami

    2010 - Cavs #1 overall (eliminated in ECF), Lakers win championship as #1 in west

    2009 - Cavs #1 overall (bounced by Boston) Lakers win championship as #1 in west


    2008 - Boston #1 overall defeats #1 Lakers in finals

    2007 - Mavs #1 overall, Pistons #1 in west, #3 in WC Spurs defeat #2 EC Cavs in finals

    2006 - #1 overall Pistons, Spurs #1 in west, EC #2 Miami defeats WC#2 Dallas in finals

    2005 - #1 overall Phoenix, #1 in east Pistons, WC#2 Spurs defeat EC# 2 Pistons in finals

    2004- #1 overall Pacers, #1 in west T-Wolves (WTF?), Pistons (#2 EC) defeat Lakers (#2 WC) in finals

    2003 - #1 overall Spurs, #1 EC Pistons. Spurs defeat EC#2 Nets in finals

    2002 - #1 overall Kings, #1 EC Nets. WC #3 Lakers defeat Nets in finals.

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    That 04 wolves team was good, and first time Garnett got out first round.
    If memory serves, Troy Hudson was having a great year, but was banged up by the time the wolves ran into the lakers, and the lakers cake walked into the finals

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    Fabbs, since Pop is coaching and making decisions, what difference do all these numbers thingies make?

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    IMO, spurs could have won 04 wcf easily, dunno if they beat pistons
    They steam roll into the championship if they get past Dallas in 06

    However I think if we beat lakers in 08, Celtics corn hole us in Finals

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    That 04 wolves team was good, and first time Garnett got out first round.
    If memory serves, Troy Hudson was having a great year, but was banged up by the time the wolves ran into the lakers, and the lakers cake walked into the finals
    Damn good and they got WWE reffed out by the Flamers.

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    That 04 wolves team was good, and first time Garnett got out first round.
    If memory serves, Troy Hudson was having a great year, but was banged up by the time the wolves ran into the lakers, and the lakers cake walked into the finals
    They had Spree and Cassell in the backcourt too. Still looks weird to see them sitting atop any standings ever.

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    Fabbs, since Pop is coaching and making decisions, what difference do all these numbers thingies make?
    Spurs have overcome Pop before, they can do it again.
    Believe.

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    2011 - Bulls overall #1, Spurs #1 in west neither makes finals, champs Mavs # 3 in west over EC # 2 Miami

    2010 - Cavs #1 overall (eliminated in ECF), Lakers win championship as #1 in west

    2009 - Cavs #1 overall (bounced by Boston) Lakers win championship as #1 in west


    2008 - Boston #1 overall defeats #1 Lakers in finals

    2007 - Mavs #1 overall, Pistons #1 in west, #3 in WC Spurs defeat #2 EC Cavs in finals

    2006 - #1 overall Pistons, Spurs #1 in west, EC #2 Miami defeats WC#2 Dallas in finals

    2005 - #1 overall Phoenix, #1 in east Pistons, WC#2 Spurs defeat EC# 2 Pistons in finals

    2004- #1 overall Pacers, #1 in west T-Wolves (WTF?), Pistons (#2 EC) defeat Lakers (#2 WC) in finals

    2003 - #1 overall Spurs, #1 EC Pistons. Spurs defeat EC#2 Nets in finals

    2002 - #1 overall Kings, #1 EC Nets. WC #3 Lakers defeat Nets in finals.
    1) Thanks for posting the facts to this question, unlike OP who doesn't understand what learning is about. (ie. ask question, find facts, form opinion)

    2) I find it interesting to note that in the past 10 years that no seed lower than 3 even made it into the finals.

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    That 04 wolves team was good, and first time Garnett got out first round.
    If memory serves, Troy Hudson was having a great year, but was banged up by the time the wolves ran into the lakers, and the lakers cake walked into the finals
    Cassell was playing out of his mind that year too. (his best year statistically)

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    1) Thanks for posting the facts to this question, unlike OP who doesn't understand what learning is about. (ie. ask question, find facts, form opinion)

    2) I find it interesting to note that in the past 10 years that no seed lower than 3 even made it into the finals.
    1. See up top.
    2. And you're wrong. Dallas was the #4 seed in 2006.

    1 San Antonio
    2 Phoenix
    3 Denver
    4 Dallas

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    Dallas had the second best record in the West in 2006. The NBA changed their playoff seeding rules after 2006 to keep the teams with the two best records on opposite sides of the bracket.

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    Dallas had the second best record in the West in 2006. The NBA changed their playoff seeding rules after 2006 to keep the teams with the two best records on opposite sides of the bracket.
    Thank you for adding to my factually correct statement that Dallas was the #4 seed in 2006.
    Hopefully wut has learned.

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    Dallas had the second best record in the West in 2006. The NBA changed their playoff seeding rules after 2006 to keep the teams with the two best records on opposite sides of the bracket.
    No he's right Dallas was a 4th seed(albeit they had 2nd best record in the west)....still seems to prove that not only does HCA seem important....there is no 'mailing it in, and turning on the switch' come playoff time.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2%80%9306_NBA_season

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