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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    "...nobody should ever call him a flopper ever again......."

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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    doesn't matter. He still hates the Spurs.

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    That's the point I've been making to haters for years. Sure, Manu shows off his soccer roots when he's taking a charge, but he takes just as many hard fouls if not more going to the rim, which I think makes the refs more likely to take some of his flops seriously which only fuels more haters. It's a vicious cycle.

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    "...nobody should ever call him a flopper ever again......."
    But he does flop.

    Two separate issues.

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    Brave and tough..thin line.

    You choose which to go with. I prefer brave.

    He's tough too but not, I can stay healthy for an entire season tough.

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    Someone needs to tell that to his DNP-Injured stat.

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    Downside to having someone on ignore, can't read this post about Manu. I'm sure it's on the Internets elsewhere though..

    lol

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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    Downside to having someone on ignore, can't read this post about Manu. I'm sure it's on the Internets elsewhere though..

    lol
    Drama queen. Just click your mouse and look at the post.

    Now you can post about having me on ignore too.

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    But he does flop.

    Two separate issues.
    For sure. I think he was just saying that more as hyperbole than anything.

    I was really just fishing for some hard core Rome haters. I've enjoyed my previous conversations with them. s and giggles and such.

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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    Downside to having someone on ignore, can't read this post about Manu. I'm sure it's on the Internets elsewhere though..

    lol
    lol I bet you logged out and read my post already.

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    lol I bet you logged out and read my post already.
    He saw it.

    Even if a person has you on ignore and someone else that's not on his ignore list quotes you, he will be able to read it from that person's quote from you.

    The ignore list is not perfect. You can still read people's posts through quotes.

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    a guy who got choked on his own show talking about toughness?

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    Brave and tough..thin line.

    You choose which to go with. I prefer brave.

    He's tough too but not, I can stay healthy for an entire season tough.
    Tough and durable are a little diffreent IMO - I feel like toughness is more ability to take hits and keep playing - durability is more a structural thing.

    Anyway, tomato, tomahto

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    Why do sports "experts" always say stuff like this? How the can you know if player "X" is the toughest guy on the league or player "Y" is the one that most wants to win? Why is it allowed for "professionals" to say subjective re ed without beign called for it?

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    He must be joking . . .

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    That's the point I've been making to haters for years. Sure, Manu shows off his soccer roots when he's taking a charge, but he takes just as many hard fouls if not more going to the rim, which I think makes the refs more likely to take some of his flops seriously which only fuels more haters. It's a vicious cycle.
    I love how this blame soccer for flopping meme has taken off with basketball fans in the US. I hear it ALL the damn time now. I can't remember a time when players in the NBA didn't flop for calls. Soccer did not invent trying to get bull calls.

    Anyway, just my rant for the day.

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    I love how this blame soccer for flopping meme has taken off with basketball fans in the US. I hear it ALL the damn time now. I can't remember a time when players in the NBA didn't flop for calls. Soccer did not invent trying to get bull calls.

    Anyway, just my rant for the day.
    I am not going to argue the "origin of flopping" but in the 90's most of what I remember was down in the post player a had the ball, player B bodies up on him. Player A lowers his shoulder and slams into the chest of player B repeatedly trying to move him. Player B doesn't want to give up position so he takes the pounding.

    One of the reasons why Karl Malone (for example) was able to use the "pull the chair out from under you" technique so effectively.

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    I love how this blame soccer for flopping meme has taken off with basketball fans in the US. I hear it ALL the damn time now. I can't remember a time when players in the NBA didn't flop for calls. Soccer did not invent trying to get bull calls.

    Anyway, just my rant for the day.
    Besides, Manu hates soccer, or at least said he's played like 5 times in his life a soccer game. So I dunno where that soccer thing came from. Flopping for Manu I guess it came from Italy, and playing in Euroleague where you have to sell every call, and try to win as much as you can because there are tough games. Plus Manu has the type of body to sell better the calls. He's skinny and flexible so he looks fragile when you check him.

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    Why do sports "experts" always say stuff like this? How the can you know if player "X" is the toughest guy on the league or player "Y" is the one that most wants to win? Why is it allowed for "professionals" to say subjective re ed without beign called for it?
    Wait, what? Sports talk shows like Jim Rome's are almost all opinion-based. In Rome's case, it's mostly his arrogant, west-coast-biased opinion, but nevertheless, what's he supposed to talk about for 3 hours if he's not giving his opinion on the sports stories of the day?

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    I am not going to argue the "origin of flopping" but in the 90's most of what I remember was down in the post player a had the ball, player B bodies up on him. Player A lowers his shoulder and slams into the chest of player B repeatedly trying to move him. Player B doesn't want to give up position so he takes the pounding.

    One of the reasons why Karl Malone (for example) was able to use the "pull the chair out from under you" technique so effectively.
    Malone's PG was one of a flopper. John Stockton probably just watched a lot of soccer though.

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    you can't really flop as blatantly in basketball as in soccer. in soccer the field is huge and there are 22 players out there and only 1 ref has the whistle, you have to act like you got shot for the ref to notice it.

    btw, in soccer I'd say 95% of the real fouls are not called. Ref only has 2 eyes. In bball I'd say 50% of more of the real fouls are called. different sports.

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    I love how this blame soccer for flopping meme has taken off with basketball fans in the US. I hear it ALL the damn time now. I can't remember a time when players in the NBA didn't flop for calls. Soccer did not invent trying to get bull calls.

    Anyway, just my rant for the day.
    To me soccer players faking injury are much worse than basketball floppers.

    Smh.

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    Why do sports "experts" always say stuff like this? How the can you know if player "X" is the toughest guy on the league or player "Y" is the one that most wants to win? Why is it allowed for "professionals" to say subjective re ed without beign called for it?
    You're allowed to do it do. You also seem to be doing a good job of calling out "professionals" for doing it.

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    To me soccer players faking injury are much worse than basketball floppers.

    Smh.
    I agree. The rolling around is stupid. It doesn't change that soccer didn't invent the flop and sure as didn't bring it to the NBA or college basketball.

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    Malone is the greatest flopper in NBA history.
    vlade divac is the greatest flopper of all time!!!

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