The vast majority of black murder victims are murdered by other blacks...I think it's over 90%
But, the vast majority of white murder victims are murdered by other whites...also around 90%
So by the calls, he was OBVIOUSLY more su ious of black people than whites AND hispanics put together!
The vast majority of black murder victims are murdered by other blacks...I think it's over 90%
But, the vast majority of white murder victims are murdered by other whites...also around 90%
If you're that interested, there's a widely used tool known as the Freedom of Information Act.
Those 911/311 calls are open records.
How far back are we going to see the percentage of murders on blacks by whites? Since beginning of the country? 1950's, 1970's, 2000's?
What are the percentages of innocent black people being killed by police as opposed to whites?
looking at all those calls............this guy has an axe to grind.
Oh and counselor, you may wih to consider the following:
What do DISCOVERY mean?But I think the problem is that under the law now, number one, prosecutors are not obligated to provide exculpatory evidence to grand juries who are considering whether or not to indict a defendant. And number two, there's no real requirement at all that prosecutors disclose exculpatory evidence to defendants prior to the time they decide to plead.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=122286337
Still no apology, peaches?
Sure. The question is why he was getting his head pounded into the sidewalk.
Maybe the 6'3" athletic football player thought he could "stand his ground" against the slightly pudgy man of 5'9". Your hypothesis are no better than anybody else's.
That's why this whole discussion is really moot until the trial starts and everybody gets to see the evidence.
Thats what i have been saying and when it comes down to 'prosecutor' and 'defense' theories, I have tried to stay out of it. I probably should have stayed out of the 'never attack a guy with a gun' thing but as a generalization it was patently false and sometimes I just cannot help myself.
And anytime GSH is just making up and inserting it for truth I feel it is my duty to point it out.
To be honest, I don't think he realized how prejudiced he actually was. It's really interesting how you can spend your whole life around people of all types but still have your preconceptions guiding your actions. Sobering really.
Creepn, you are the man/woman.
ok. i guess. i really dont know why you'd post that link as a response. it really wasn't what i was getting at. i was asking why would trayvon engage a man with a gun that's visible in his waistband? read that last sentence a few times over and over if you need to.
yeah, that's really what i wasn't getting at
was trayvon cornered?
you really had nothing for me
"The prosecuting attorney, after saying "I didn't know we were going to be trying the case today," is back to ask questions of state attorney's investigator Dale Gilbreath, after O'Mara asked questions challenging the state's assertions.
The prosecutor asked Gilbreath whether there was any evidence indicating that Zimmerman's account that Martin bashed his head against a sidewalk wasn't true. Gilbreath said yes."
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/20...rge-zimmerman/
I'll just leave this here.
Though to be fair it doesn't completely remove the possibility that Zimmerman returned to his car at some point. I just think he took up his pursuit again because the body was so far away from the car.
I suspect that between the fact that Zimmerman was lying about having his head bashed against the sidewalk and the location of the body, SYG is Zimmerman's only hope of defense as opposed to broader self-defense rules because it's been used before in similar cases. O'Mara is likely going to try and hang the jury up on the fact that they don't know who made initial contact if his line of questioning shows anything.
Given the nature of the charge, however, I think the prosecution is basically going to try and prove that Zimmerman was reckless in his actions and that his account was untrue.
??????
really? you have absolute knowledge that zimmerman wanted to kill him?
I don't know but, why's that germane to this case? Zimmerman was neither white nor a police officer.
What does that have to do with anything? They were on the street.
I think the better question is there any credible evidence when Zimmerman pulled/brandished his piece.
of course I don't but it isn't a far fetched notion.
normally in a good or bad neighborhood, a skinny person can outrun a fat person
Wild Cobra and others asked why didn't Martin call the police if he was scared and I explained to him that given the history with the police and black people, black people call the police as a measure of last resort. Whites can easily pick up the phone and report non-emergencies but it's not the same feeling for the black community.
I have no evidence that this is the case but if they met on the street and Martin knew he had a gun and thought he was going to use it then its a reasonable conclusion that all running would do is get you shot in the back.
if someone has a gun and you cannot get something between you and them or get very very far away very quickly they will still have a clear shot at you.
How about looking at those calls I listed and see where most of his su ious lies. The black males he reported were just doing everyday human movements: Walking or driving.
with you being so concerned about race, what's the race percentages there? is this a "black" or "white" neighborhood? and i ask like that because you're framing it that way.
I doubt this is true but, nonetheless, it seems to me to be a problem that can only be solved by the black community.
I'm also not quite understanding why you're attempting to conflate a shooting, committed by an Hispanic civilian against a Black civilian into a something about white cops and black victims of white cops.
But, since you raised the issue, perhaps you've answered your own question. Mistrust can sometimes lead people to do irrational things that can lead them to be injured.
As a white person, when I get pulled over by the police, I'm polite and follow every command to the letter -- if I'm able. I don't smart back, I don't run, I don't attack them, I don't pull out a gun and try to kill them.
I think you get the picture.
Maybe the chip on blacks' shoulders are causing them to act stupid and get shot.
Circling back to the Martin shooting; perhaps Trayvon had a chip on his shoulder about being a black kid being followed in his own neighborhood so, he decided to confront Zimmerman and kick his ass.
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