Suspend MWP for the playoffs...

[GinobiliForTres]

Metta WorldPeace
I just watched the replay again..... Oooo.. My celebration of the dunk really was too much... Didn't even see James ..... Omg... Looks bad

[TheSkeptic]

Metta WorldPeace
I just watched the replay again..... Oooo.. My celebration of the dunk really was too much... Didn't even see James ..... Omg... Looks bad

Suspend him indefinitely without pay while they wait for Harden's medical report.

[TDMVPDPOY]

u guys remember the kings spurs playoff series, where artest flew in with a flying elbow for a rebound...lol

[GSH]

Agree. I could have taken that hit and been right out there playing.

Ummm... no. The other link is broken. Have a look at this one, in HD and slow motion. (Start around :26) That was a dangerous shot. And with all the attention being paid to concussions lately, there's no way the Thunder could have let him stay in the game, even if he wanted to.

BTW - they've already said it's a concussion. It's just a matter of how bad.

[Obstructed_View]

I remember the series where Artest hit Parker, Manu and Duncan in the same game before being suspended.

[rascal]

Not trying to argue, but I disagree. They're saying that apparently Harden left with concussion-like symptoms. He didn't fully look like himself to me when he came back out either.

Artest deserves a heavy suspension at the very least simply based on what happened during the game and his response to Ibaka and Durant afterwards. Going into a fight stance after making a play like that? Just shows that something snapped in my opinion and that he needs to be held accountable.

Depending on Harden's medical report, however, I can't say I wouldn't think long and hard about a full season or permanent ban if I was David Stern. Artest already had a second chance after the Detroit brawl and he's shown yet again that he's incapable of controlling himself. Maybe he needs to be medicated or something.

My brother tore his ACL and continued playing on it(softball), finished the game. Said it felt like bee stings in his knee.

[Obstructed_View]

Harden's 6'5", 220 and nearly got his head taken off. A normal sized person would be in the ICU after that.

[Dr. John R. Brinkley]

Agree. I could have taken that hit and been right out there playing. I slammed my head on a large rock making a diving catch in the woods( woods just outside of left field)during a softball game and continued playing the game. It takes a bigger hit than that to be concussed. Can't compare that hit with what you see in the NFL that causes concussions.

It was intentional and a suspension is needed but anymore more than 2 or 3 games with the playoffs starting is excessive.

Doubt Harden has anything more than a knot on his head but look for OK City to try to play up the injury(Harden missing the next game) to try to get a bigger suspension. They won't beat the lakers if they have to face them. OK City is the choke team in this years playoffs.

The NBA wants the Lakers vs Miami in the finals. That would be the biggest money draw for the league. They don't want the Spurs anywhere near the finals and won't be doing anything to help them get there.

I appreciate your tough stance but I agree with very little in this post.

Your comparison of your outfield heroics and a rock to getting elbowed by a 260 lb professional athlete at close range seems arbitrary and inconclusive. Pietrus had a concussion recently and his head didn't even hit the floor.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Harden had lingering effects. Possibly minor transient cognitive deficits, problems with short term memory for a few days. It's hard to say.

But the bottom line is: we don't know by watching from home on a television. Only his neurologist knows for sure.

And yet you go from armchair neurologist to conspiracy theorist in the next paragraph without any irony.

I agree that the league could do without the Spurs in the playoffs but they did let us win 4 les so a full conspiracy is hard to prove.

But I agree that OKC is not a powerhouse.

[rascal]

Ummm... no. The other link is broken. Have a look at this one, in HD and slow motion. (Start around :26) That was a dangerous shot. And with all the attention being paid to concussions lately, there's no way the Thunder could have let him stay in the game, even if he wanted to.

You must be made out of glass.

Harden and Artest for that matter were both lucky the elbow didn't land directly into the face, it could have broken a nose or orbital bone but where it landed it didn't look like it caused much damage at all.

[Legacy]

en' Ogre-Idiot. "WorldPeace" my ass.

[emanueldavidginobili]

MWP on twitter: "I just watched the replay again..... Oooo.. My celebration of the dunk really was too much... Didn't even see James ..... Omg... Looks bad"

[Obstructed_View]

"Looks bad" = chances of his playoff hopes.

[GSH]

You must be made out of glass.

Harden and Artest for that matter were both lucky the elbow didn't land directly into the face, it could have broken a nose or orbital bone but where it landed it didn't look like it caused much damage at all.

Heh... I can't tell if you're kidding, or if you're really trying to prove your is bigger on an anonymous message board. I think you're being serious. Okay - you win. I'm willing to believe that your skull is impossible to dent. For most people, that was a dangerous shot.

Oh, and it doesn't matter what the outcome is. Like you said, if it HAD hit Harden in the face, it could have been disastrous. So if Harden isn't badly hurt, it's just luck. The suspension is for throwing the elbow - not for being accurate.

[T Park]

Rascal defending this might be the most sickening thing I've ever read in this forum.

I wish/hope Harden presses charges. The nut case shouldn't even be in the league.

[TheSkeptic]

My brother tore his ACL and continued playing on it(softball), finished the game. Said it felt like bee stings in his knee.

Well maybe you guys have special genes.

Even after thinking it over I still don't agree with your premise though. I'm honestly not trying to minimize the experiences of you and yours because tearing an ACL or even your softball experience does take guts and is very impressive.

That said, Harden looked disoriented and an elbow strike to the neck area (from someone as strong as Ron Artest) presents a completely different set of medical and neurological concerns. We already know that Harden was showing signs of a concussion which you didn't appear to be after hitting your head in softball.

This proves that the hit clearly affected Harden badly and in my opinion, Harden's health/the riskiness of that cheap shot are the factors that need to play a major role in determining how long Artest is suspended for.

[rascal]

Harden's 6'5", 220 and nearly got his head taken off. A normal sized person would be in the ICU after that.

Being 6'5 and 220 doesn't have anything to do with being able to take a hit.
The location of the hit is most important.


Much over exaggeration from this board wanting a rest of season suspension.

[rascal]

Well maybe you guys have special genes.

Even after thinking it over I still don't agree with your premise though. I'm honestly not trying to minimize the experiences of you and yours because tearing an ACL or even your softball experience does take guts and is very impressive.

That said, Harden looked disoriented and an elbow strike to the neck area (from someone as strong as Ron Artest) presents a completely different set of medical and neurological concerns. We already know that Harden was showing signs of a concussion which you didn't appear to be after hitting your head in softball.

This proves that the hit clearly affected Harden badly and in my opinion, Harden's health/the riskiness of that cheap shot are the factors that need to play a major role in determining how long Artest is suspended fo

r.

Who said he was having concussion symptoms? The TV guys? They held him out for precaution. He even came back for the 2nd half but are playing it safe and want to check him out further so they sent him back.

We don't know for sure one way or another. but all I am saying is it did not look that bad from the location where he got hit. It could have been much worse.

[easjer]

Criminal charges? Seriously? Never. Going. To. Happen. Unbelievable. It was a cheap shot, it was wrong, it was obviously intentional, it was completely unnecessary, but criminal? My god you people overreact.

[pgardn]

Agree. I could have taken that hit and been right out there playing. I slammed my head on a large rock making a diving catch in the woods( woods just outside of left field)during a softball game and continued playing the game. It takes a bigger hit than that to be concussed. Can't compare that hit with what you see in the NFL that causes concussions.

It was intentional and a suspension is needed but anymore more than 2 or 3 games with the playoffs starting is excessive.

Doubt Harden has anything more than a knot on his head but look for OK City to try to play up the injury(Harden missing the next game) to try to get a bigger suspension. They won't beat the lakers if they have to face them. OK City is the choke team in this years playoffs.

The NBA wants the Lakers vs Miami in the finals. That would be the biggest money draw for the league. They don't want the Spurs anywhere near the finals and won't be doing anything to help them get there.

I had a house fall on my head. I was decapitated but it was not a problem.

[GSH]

MWP on twitter: "I just watched the replay again..... Oooo.. My celebration of the dunk really was too much... Didn't even see James ..... Omg... Looks bad"

Horse . Maybe he couldn't "see" him, but Harden was on his back. Artest knew he was there. I tried to give him the benefit of a doubt at first. But not after watching it a few more times. That move with the elbow wasn't any kind of celebration.

[TheSkeptic]

Who said he was having concussion symptoms? The TV guys? They held him out for precaution. He even came back for the 2nd half but are playing it safe and want to check him out further so they sent him back.

We don't know for sure one way or another. but all I am saying is it did not look that bad from the location where he got hit. I could have been much worse.

http://www.floridatoday.com/usatoday...t%7CSports%7Cp

And besides, Harden was clearly not himself when he left the lockeroom. I appreciate a more physical style of basketball as much as the next person but that was completely crossing the line.

[urunobili]

Criminal charges? Seriously? Never. Going. To. Happen. Unbelievable. It was a cheap shot, it was wrong, it was obviously intentional, it was completely unnecessary, but criminal? My god you people overreact.

People go to jail for less in the US. I'm suprised you find it that off of an idea TBH

[GSH]

Who said he was having concussion symptoms? The TV guys? They held him out for precaution. He even came back for the 2nd half but are playing it safe and want to check him out further so they sent him back.

We don't know for sure one way or another. but all I am saying is it did not look that bad from the location where he got hit. I could have been much worse.

The Oklahoman reported that Harden was diagnosed with a concussion after taking World Peace's swinging left elbow to his head during the second quarter of Sunday's game between the Oklahoma City Thunder and the Los Angeles Lakers.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ey...ld-peace-elbow

[Legacy]

Criminal charges? Seriously? Never. Going. To. Happen. Unbelievable. It was a cheap shot, it was wrong, it was obviously intentional, it was completely unnecessary, but criminal? My god you people overreact.

Ever heard of the word "assault?"




1. A violent physical or verbal attack.


2.

a. A military attack, such as one launched against a fortified area or place.
b. The concluding stage of an attack in which close combat occurs with the enemy.


3. Law

a. An unlawful threat or attempt to do bodily injury to another.
b. The act or an instance of unlawfully threatening or attempting to injure another.


4.

a. Law Sexual assault.
b. The crime of rape.
v. as·sault·ed, as·sault·ing, as·saults
v.tr. 1. To make an assault upon; attack. See Synonyms at attack.
2. To rape.

v.intr. To make an assault.




... Now you have.

[Juventini]

Being 6'5 and 220 doesn't have anything to do with being able to take a hit.
The location of the hit is most important.


Much over exaggeration from this board wanting a rest of season suspension.

I'm not sure if you are being serious or not..... Let's say Harden were to turn his head just a little to the left at that time. Artest's elbow would have land right at Harden's temporal bone and that could cause facial nerve paralysis or even hearing loss.