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I'll take Kobe over Jordan in the clutch. No question.
Sure, today.
If I need a 3, yeah. Other than that, no.
Didn't MJ shoot like around 50% during clutch situations...
Even then, just have Jordan drive it and draw a foul for 3.
one things for sure he wouldn't have taken a Spur...in any era
Spurs don't need to win games against scrub teams in crunch time. o Netsone things for sure he wouldn't have taken a Spur...
bbbut but wat bout timmy?one things for sure he wouldn't have taken a Spur...
he is more clutch is what ive heard from spurfan
Hurts, don't it?one things for sure he wouldn't have taken a Spur...
Palmer is a known Lakers homer, so I'm not surprised he'd take Kobe. However, what exactly does "crunch time" mean in this instance? Last 5 minutes of the game, last 10 seconds, or last second shot?
Only an idiot would take Kobe over Jordan in the first two instances, but it's very close between the two if you need a last second shot from an inbound pass.
Take Reggie Miller over both for a buzzer beater, though. Best catch-and-shoot shooter of all-time.
Duncan was a clutcher player in '03 than Bryant.one things for sure he wouldn't have taken a Spur...
I would too, just to laugh at the ensuing massive butthurt among Kobe haters, Jordan fans and Lakers haters alike. That, and because Kobe can make things happen in the clutch.
Who the is Chris Palmer?
More clutch in the '03 and '04 seasons:bbbut but wat bout timmy?
he is more clutch is what ive heard from spurfan
Funny enough, Shaq was the '03 Lakers' best clutch time performer, despite his poor FT shooting.
No trolling or Kobe hate here, but Kobe's clutch reputation is massively overblown. Sure, if you need a last second turn around jumper from the baseline coming off an inbounds pass, there's no one better in today's league, but Kobe hasn't been any better than many other star players of his generation in crunch time.
Of course HE wouldn't have taken a Spur or any other guy for that mather, If he's crazy enough to pick a guy that hits 1/4 of his clutch shots over Jordan.one things for sure he wouldn't have taken a Spur...
BTW, Manu s all over Kobe in crunch time.
It's overblown because of the media orgasm everytime Kobe does something in crunch time like "OMFGGGG LEBRON CAN'T DO DET!!!". But sure, I'll take him because I've seen him do good things in the clutch. As a person who watched him swish nothing but air on two crucial shots in Utah, I can say he has come a long way.
Agreed. Kobe's a fine crunch time performer, he's just not leaps and bounds above comparable superstars as the talking heads and media proclaim. I will say he is the most dangerous and effective last second shot taker though. That can't be disputed, but I don't think he's any better of a late-4th closer than the Dirk's, Wade's, Lebron's (who is unfairly labeled a choker) etc.
LeBron is unfairly high up as a choker but to some degree he merits it. He really disappears in the biggest ballgames of his team on national TV, which is sad given all his world-beating talents. Crunch time performances are a mix of perception and the player itself wanting it. LeBron could be a ing great clutch player if he just wanted it in the biggest games. Kobe, sure he shoots the team out, but he wants it and he's going to ing get it.
Lebron is experiencing a similar media blowback that Dirk did after the '06 Finals and '07 First Round. Everyone seemed to forget how clutch Dirk was before those two series. Same with Lebron. He about single-handily got the Cavs to the Finals in '07. And in '09, he did everything in his power to get the Cavs back to the Finals. He had 49, 44, and 41 in Games 1, 3, and 5 of the Eastern Conference Finals, all games which the Cavs lost. And in last year's Eastern Conference Finals, he was great on both sides of the ball, holding Derek Rose to a combined 48 points on 17 of 56 shooting for the last two games of the series.
Thing is, he doesn't yet have the rings to cover up his failures. Kobe, Duncan, etc could choke for the rest of their remaining careers and no one would criticize it since they have rings (which, let's be honest, are team accomplishments), but until Lebron hoists the O'Brien, the microscope will continue to be on him and unfairly focus on the negative.
That could be a great reason but I don't see the reason for LeBron not to transcend that media blowback. Again, because of his talents and what he did previously. After his clutch destruction of Detroit, everyone thought he was going to be the next big thing in the crunch time since Mike J. I even heard comments that it was better than any of Mike's performances. Since then, I felt that he has regressed from that crest -- a crest that we thought could only be a point moving upward.
Thing is, LeBron is so ing good he can destroy anyone if he wants it. He has to have the consistent mindset to want it.
Ring winners are instantaneously absolved of any crunch time choking. Case in point to "it's all about perception". Two players that I think now belong in this circle: Pierce and Garnett. Pierce is an underrated clutch player who is also going to be absolved of any crunch time choking because he thoroughly outplayed Kobe in the 2008 Finals and won the Finals MVP to boot. Garnett was never really known for any mega-clutch moment (except Game 7 of 04 WCSF) but he is going to get absolved because he was the leader of det Celtics team physically and mentally.
And Melo> Kobe in clutch . It's not an opinion. It's a fact. So Melo> MJ too
Lol Palmer..who is this idiot?
I definitely think he wants to, and after his dominance of Rose in last year's ECF, we thought he'd finally do it. He just never found a rhythm in the Finals. It happens. Similar to Kobe in '08 after dominating his way through the Western Conference playoffs. Yes, Boston was a great defensive team, but nearly every fan and analyst on earth thought Kobe was unstoppable and there wasn't a defense in existence that could slow him down. But as we know, Boston's defense did just that. Yet, that didn't stop people from labeling Kobe a "choker" and accusing of him of not being able to win without Shaq.
Regarding Lebron against Dallas, whether it was primarily due to him shrinking in the moment or Dallas's defense (which was very good. Marion played good D on Lebron, and if Lebron did beat Marion, you had Chandler waiting for him in the paint) we'll never know. Sometimes players don't choke and you have to give the majority of the credit to the opposing defense.
Playoffs will be damn interesting this year, no doubt.
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