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    "The team was in shock when I did (the trade)," Popovich said before his Spurs faced the Pacers at the AT&T Center. "It was good both ways. He'll really help Indiana, and I think Kawhi and our big kid (Erazem Lorbek) will help us. For basketball reasons we did it."

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    Spanish article from tubabasket.com

    Anything new? Or just the Pop-Quote from beginning of april about "the big kid" in europe...

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    Nothing really. Other than the team (Barça) has already accepted he's leaving.

    I don't know if they have any credible source or they're writing out of their asses since that web is sometimes a bit sensationalist but everything points that Erazem to San Anbtonio has been a done deal for a while.

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    Get this done and have his butt in San Antonio in the gym hitting the weights this summer. He can be Splitters spot buddy as both of them need to add a couple of pounds of muscle on there frames.

    Trade Blair for someones 2013 draft pick....

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    I doubt erazem comes to the spurs with how well Diaw has been playing. The Spurs can't afford both players in the off season, Diaw is exactly what Pop wants in a player and has proved his worth. Seems like this year will be the only time Lorbek will be able to come to the spurs. I think maybe the spurs trade the pick unless Diaw plays terribly in the playoffs.

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    I doubt erazem comes to the spurs with how well Diaw has been playing. The Spurs can't afford both players in the off season, Diaw is exactly what Pop wants in a player and has proved his worth. Seems like this year will be the only time Lorbek will be able to come to the spurs. I think maybe the spurs trade the pick unless Diaw plays terribly in the playoffs.
    I disagree...With TD coming back for unknown amount, amnesty clause at the spurs disposal, and cheap 1 year contract for Blair available, JA and Dyess coming off the books,etc...There are plenty of options to free up cash this summer. Question that no one knows at this time is how much, but its definatly possible.

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    I disagree...With TD coming back for unknown amount, amnesty clause at the spurs disposal, and cheap 1 year contract for Blair available, JA and Dyess coming off the books,etc...There are plenty of options to free up cash this summer. Question that no one knows at this time is how much, but its definatly possible.
    NO. if Spurs re sign Tim, they will only have the MLE to work with, no matter what contracts come off the books.
    outside Manu and Tony the amnesty can only be used on Bonner, so this effect for the cap is pretty limited.
    MLE won't be enough to sign both Lorbek and Diaw.
    it's either Lorbek or Diaw.

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    NO. if Spurs re sign Tim, they will only have the MLE to work with, no matter what contracts come off the books.
    outside Manu and Tony the amnesty can only be used on Bonner, so this effect for the cap is pretty limited.
    MLE won't be enough to sign both Lorbek and Diaw.
    it's either Lorbek or Diaw.
    Is there something you know that none of us know about how much TD will sign for if he returns? Just wondering

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    Is there something you know that none of us know about how much TD will sign for if he returns? Just wondering
    It doesn't matter how much Duncan re-signs for, unless you expect something unrealistic like veteran min, the Spurs wouldn't not have the money to go after both Lorbek and Diaw.

    1st case is if Duncan signs for $10 mil or more - then the Spurs are over the cap and only have the exceptions, thus not enough for both.

    2nd case - Duncan signs for something like 5 mil per year, highly unrealistic, but still - the Spurs are a few million under the cap, so can only offer that or MLE money at most again. They can't use cap space AND exceptions.

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    So pay the the tax man......Sign Green, Diaw, and Lobrek.. Get it done....

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    Can't the Spurs offer Diaw the lower level exception (or whatever it's called under the new CBA), and concurrently offer Lorbek the full MLE? Obviously Diaw will test the market, which is probably why he only singed on for 1 year. I get that.

    But who knows, maybe less money is worth it to him when he weighs other factors like playing on a playoff team with his bff. Or maybe the market does us a solid, and no team he likes thinks he's worth a full MLE.

    Concerning the exceptions and how they work -- Hypothetically, if the LLE is available couldn't Diaw just sign a 1 year deal for that amount and then seek a better deal from the Spurs in the summer of 2013 when they have more cap space? Or in the alternative, couldn't he sign a multi-year deal so long as the 1st year (the year Spurs are over the Cap), starts at the LLE amount?

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    Can't the Spurs offer Diaw the lower level exception (or whatever it's called under the new CBA), and concurrently offer Lorbek the full MLE? Obviously Diaw will test the market, which is probably why he only singed on for 1 year. I get that.

    But who knows, maybe less money is worth it to him when he weighs other factors like playing on a playoff team with his bff. Or maybe the market does us a solid, and no team he likes thinks he's worth a full MLE.

    Concerning the exceptions and how they work -- Hypothetically, if the LLE is available couldn't Diaw just sign a 1 year deal for that amount and then seek a better deal from the Spurs in the summer of 2013 when they have more cap space? Or in the alternative, couldn't he sign a multi-year deal so long as the 1st year (the year Spurs are over the Cap), starts at the LLE amount?
    Why would Diaw volunteer to be lowballed? His worth is far more than the LLE..and after a potentially good playoff performance that worth is only going to rise.

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    Why would Diaw volunteer to be lowballed? His worth is far more than the LLE..and after a potentially good playoff performance that worth is only going to rise.
    Definitely, I get that he will explore the market. I'm sure the Suns for one would love to have him back. I just wonder if other factors will come in to play in Diaw's decision.

    I'm more curious about how the new LLE can be used. For example, can the Spurs offer Diaw a 10M/3yr, where the first year starts at what the LLE cap is, and then in subsequent years have the remaining portions the contract come out of the total cap amount in years where the Spurs will have more cap flexibility? I'm just not that familiar with the exceptions.

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    The issue is that both Diaw and Lorbek are worth more than half the MLE, and that's the only way we could get both. So, it's a choice between them, unless some team agreed in advance to Sign Diaw, wait 3 months, then trade him to us for $3-4 million worth of contracts.(Which makes no sense, and is as realistic as Duncan deciding to take the Minimum so that we can afford both)

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    If Diaw is good in the playoffs, it will likely take the full MLE to keep him. Spurs hope to get Lorbek too would be to convince him signing for the LLE.

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    Just do the wink-wink deal........just don't get caught!

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    I think the BAE (LLE) no longer exists under the 2011 CBA. If the Spurs didn't paid tax this season, they could use the full MLE which is down to $5M, if they paid tax its $3M.

    Splitter was more accomplished player than Lorbek, and he signed for $3.4M + 8% increments. Lorbek will probably command around $3M.

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    and how, financially, could we make Batum a "big offer"?

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    I suppose they can do it only if they sent Bonner`s and/or Jax contracts as expiring somewhere. Without it Spurs wont have enough cap space.

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    and how, financially, could we make Batum a "big offer"?
    We can't. That guy just makes stuff up.

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    Spurs will be after Batum and and vet big. Diaw would be a back up signing, Spurs I think will look to move mills to get a first round pick in the mid to upper part of the draft, maybe sending him and Blair to a late lotto team.

    Green I would love to see us keep as a 6th man, but depends on Batum. SA is going to make him a big offer. They may dump Jaxs as well if they get batum.
    There's so much fail in this post I don't even know where to begin.

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    hahahahahaha

    I'd love to know how the Spurs will make room to make a big offer for Nic Batum. How will SA move Mills if he has a PO ? Dump S-Jax? How so ? We can't use the amnesty clause on him.

    Seriously

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    Spurs will be after Batum and and vet big. Diaw would be a back up signing, Spurs I think will look to move mills to get a first round pick in the mid to upper part of the draft, maybe sending him and Blair to a late lotto team.

    Green I would love to see us keep as a 6th man, but depends on Batum. SA is going to make him a big offer. They may dump Jaxs as well if they get batum.
    interesting.
    do you think they will use Richards rights as a teaser to get Batum?
    if they did, I can see the Blazers bite on a S&T.
    and do you think this time we have a chance to get Blatche? he is the vet big you at´re talking about, right? (you can't tell us, that's ok.)

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    Spurs will be after Batum and and vet big. Diaw would be a back up signing, Spurs I think will look to move mills to get a first round pick in the mid to upper part of the draft, maybe sending him and Blair to a late lotto team.

    Green I would love to see us keep as a 6th man, but depends on Batum. SA is going to make him a big offer. They may dump Jaxs as well if they get batum.
    Wow...you've thrown some against the wall in the past but this one is especially soggy.

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    There's so much fail in this post I don't even know where to begin.
    Wow...you've thrown some against the wall in the past but this one is especially soggy.


    I like to avoid the TX 2 Step dog piles, I guess I just never thought of him as the joke others did, but wow; comments like that one alone certainly could go a long way towards validating his reputation.

    I was gonna list all the dumb things about it followed by question marks and topped off with a emoticon, but then I realized what would be the point it would be on par with just copy and pasting his entire post.




    ...ok i couldnt resist: Blair + Mills for a late lottery pick in a stacked draft?

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