It's really odd to keep hearing everyone talk about Artest being suspended for "as much as 3 games".
Dude got suspended 3 games for breaking HD video cameras BEFORE the Palace brawl.
If he gets suspended for only 3 games, I'm not sure that bodes well for the playoffs tbh because that'll give guys like Bynum and Artest the impression that they can get away with this type of thing. That could really be (even more) dangerous for other players. For the sake of safety, he needs to be off the court.
Damn!...I'm starting to slip.... !
probably not too much less force tbh.
Well, the traditional punishment for thrown elbows or hits of that kind has been 1-2 games. FWD already pointed out what you have, that MWP seems to be a stricter punishment system than most, so you are right that it will probably be more than 3, but it's not insane, given punishment history in the league, to have a baseline of 'as much as 3 games.'
TBH, I'm really side-eyeing the idea that he needs to be out for x number of games longer than Harden. What a terrible guide for punishments/suspensions, however inappropriate the actions. That's really the precedent we want? I mean, I sort of get it if I consider him doing that to one my team's players, but even so - I think that is a terrible, terrible idea.
That's got to be Lakerfan's idea. They wouldn't be suggesting it if Artest's elbow had put Harden in the hospital or ended his career.
When will they announce his suspension?
Since he's a Laker, they probably took an extra day to get a feel of the room. Now they know they can safely get away with suspending him for three games and not take any heat for it. You know damn good and well that if he were still in Indiana he'd be suspended for a minimum of 30 games. Though if he were still in Indiana, the Pacers fans likely wouldn't be defending what he did.
How has Davis Stern not issued a statement? If he thinks that a long suspension will cause the nba to lose some fans he underestimates the respect the league will get sticking up for its players. I thought the point of all the rules of the last decade plus was to stop the physicality and intentional hurting of players. He is a terrible leader.
I'd be fine with that. To me, he's got to get at least the first two rounds, not only because he deserves that, but because then the suspension will have an impact. Them not having him to be the primary Durant defender in round two would be a big loss. But if he can return, even relatively early in that series, then the suspension will essentially amount to a break.
But I'd suspend him for the playoffs too. They need to send a message to him, to the Lakers and to the rest of the league and a slap on the wrist isn't going to do that. If they want to greatly diminish the chances of someone doing this or anything similarly dirty in the future, then they need to go overboard with the suspension.
The 'experts' are saying the suspension should come tomorrow. That it's not just a matter of handing down a ruling, the league needs to review the cir stances, the tape, interview all players involved and review previous similar infractions/punishments before issuing a ruling.
It would be inappropriate for the NBA to comment prior to fully investigating the issue and issuing a punishment - it would be considered prejudicial and that they didn't fully do their investigatory duty, particularly if they suspend him enough that it exceeds the limit that can't be appealed. If there is a chance it's a long enough suspension for MWP to appeal to an outside arbitrator (and I doubt it will be), the last thing the NBA wants is the appearance that they rushed to a decision based on his reputation or media pressures or something.
I really don't know that I agree with that, that it would be a 30 game suspension. As you pointed out, he's gotten longer suspensions for damaging equipment. The fact of the matter is that similar incidents (flagrant 2's, intentional elbows, head shots) are traditionally 1-2 game suspensions, though the Barea hit by Bynum was 5 games. Many people in the NBA community (reporters, players, etc) seemed to feel 5 games was appropriate - it seems to be non-Laker fans and some reporters loudly proclaiming the longer suspensions on the basis of viciousness or intention or concussion hysteria.
As someone (Mel? timvp?) suggested, the max number of games that he can be suspended without appeal is the most likely scenario here, imo.
Hysteria? What?
12 games or so would be good because that would probably be effectively pulling him for the rest of the season and the playoffs.
This made main stream news today. I heard it on talk radio, as well as seeing national news pundits discussing it.
Knowing how Stern is so proactively trying to redefine a goody-goody NBA image, I'm thinking he's going to come down with a huge punishment for Artest. As he should.
It wouldn't surprise me if he was suspended for the remainder of the playoffs. Stern's going to make an example out of this, especially since it's a repeat offender. Hey, America, remember that guy that went into the stands and brawled a fan? Yeah, it's him again...
It's also funny to me seeing the Artest apologists talking about how hard he's struggled to remake his image and start being a good person. LOL he was suspended just last year during the playoffs as well...
Alex Kennedy: The NBA will likely decide what to do with Metta World Peace today. Announcement is expected this afternoon. Lakers' next game is Thursday.
Ron's brother making an ass of himself on twitter.
what's he saying? cant read twitter at work
I read a bunch of the articles being written about the possible punishment. But I pay extra attention to the ones on NBA.dotcom. And they sort of have a theme. Start out saying that he MUST be punished, and that his action was egregious, etc. Then they go on to say something like "he should be suspended for at least the remainder of the regular season". Or they talk about Andrew Bynum's 4 game suspension (originally 5 games, but reduced after the public outrage died down), and how MWP's suspension "might even be longer than that".
It looks to me like they are trying to get people used to the idea that 5 games IS a harsh suspension. You can bet they've got the image consultants busy, trying to see what the public will swallow. I don't think they can possibly go with less than Bynum's reduced sentence of 4 games, but I wouldn't be surprised if Stern goes with 5 games and a severe warning.
Yeah it'd be pretty ridiculous for it to be only 5 games. I thought 5 games was a good number when i first saw it. But when i factored in the fact that it's Artest and that he got suspended last year against the Mavs, there's no way it should be the same as Bynums.
An elbow to the back of the head is way more dangerous than Bynum's hit on Barea. 10-15 games sounds about right considering the perpetrator and the severity of the hit.
He needs to be banned or at the very least suspended indefinitely and then to have his case reviewed at the start of next season. Between his history, his lack of impulse control, and his inability to handle his emotions, I'm not sure it's worth the risk of someone else getting seriously hurt.
I mean concussing someone for getting in the way of his celebration? To ensure the safety of opposing players, he shouldn't get another chance imo.
From the LA Times. The caption for this picture reads:
Lakers forward Metta World Peace is in full celebration following a dunk as Thunder guard James Harden bumps into him before the elbow-swinging incident.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers...r&dlvrit=53297
this announcement is takin its time then lebrons great announcement
From the LA Times. The caption for this picture reads:
Lakers forward Metta World Peace is in full celebration following a dunk as Thunder guard James Harden bumps into him before the elbow-swinging incident.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers...r&dlvrit=53297
LMFAO!! Whatta' en joke! ... And whatta' "Mega World Piece (of turd)" he is--whether he realizes it or not. He needs to be mentally re-evaluated ASAP, and his meds/doses need to be adjusted accordingly and pronto. A completely 'fresh' Mental Health Eval, Anger Management courses, a new shrink, etc, etc, ... Just the en' WORKS, dude. Get him the outta' here, already. EEEEeeewwwww. en' sick and grotesque journalism to say the least. Media Suckers (not that I'm the least bit surprised about this, lol). Just... eeewwwww. I can't wait to see what they finally decide to do with his sorry arse... then we can go from there, heh.
Said the "White media and Uncle Toms at ESPN want Ron out of the playoffs"
Said he lost all respect for Bruce Bowen. So Im more than likely guessing he dropped the uncle tom on him.
Reverse racism. Gotta love it.
Everybody keeps saying he's going to get preferential treatment because he's a Laker, but I feel like it's more likely that Stern will err on the side of OVER-punishing him because he knows that would be the perception otherwise.
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