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How about recent ex-Spurs.
I always thought RJ had a pretty high real IQ, but a pretty low basketball IQ.
I don't think the Spurs have a guy with a low basketball IQ anymore. Guys I'd classify as having a low basketball IQ are guys like JR Smith or Gerald Green. A guy like Hasheem Thabeet looks like he has no basketball IQ, but it's more that he just doesn't give a since he got paid.
If I had to mention a Spur with a low basketball IQ I'd have to say someone like Marcus Haislip or Desmon Farmer. Maybe Francisco Elson is the dumbest Spur to get regular playing time.
EDIT: James White!
How about recent ex-Spurs.
I always thought RJ had a pretty high real IQ, but a pretty low basketball IQ.
More like the Jaren Jackson, tbh.^^ the Boris Diaw of the message board.
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Seriously though, not sure what kind of thread you could want. If you still think TP is a two playing as a one ... I probably can't help you, tbh.
I was guffawed at. I figured this had been discussed before and I missed it.
Considering Tony's assist totals over the years, I'm thinking I'm pretty set in my opinion.
Parker was the backup for Laurent Sciarra for Paris Basket Racing. Laurent Sciarra is a point guard. Parker got the starting job for PBR at the point guard position. Why is this even a question? Parker's never played shooting guard in his life.
Neal played the point guard position last night.
True or false: Neal is a true point guard.
1 game.
Entire career.
Figure out the difference.
Tony Parker is absolutely a PG with a pretty classic set of PG skills.
lol "2 guard"
I'll take that as a false.
What percent of games at point guard will Neal have to play before he's considered a point guard?
51%? 75%? 90%? 99%
Give me a number. Or is it too late for him?
lol "classic set"
Neal has never been a point guard. He could possibly be developed into one, and his effectiveness at the position will dictate that, so there's not a percentage of games being forced into the position that will make him a point guard. I suspect you know that, but why you're being a about it remains a mystery.
Tony Parker has never NOT been a point guard in his entire pro career going back to when he was 16. Are you seriously so stupid that you can't see the difference, or are you just pining for attention?
if he were an undersized 2, or shooting guard, shouldn't he be able to hit 3's? Or outside of the last couple seasons, have a consistent jumper?
Drew Gooden is probably in the running for that one...
his skill set coming into the league was speed, penetration and kicking it out. What would you call that?
Yep. Completely blocked him out. I agree. Thank you.
The truth is Parker is a really undersized center.
I agree that Parker has matured into a true PG this year. Before, he was more of a straight up scoring 1. But I never personally thought of him as a 2; maybe because he's played PG his entire career and that's all I've ever seen him play. He did guard Rip Hamilton a lot during the 05 Finals.
He has better footwork than most centers nowadays tbh ...
If he kicked it out enough times to get 8-10 assists per game, I'd call him a point guard. Generally when TP has penetrated, he's shot the ball.
Over the course of time, it's generally taken Manu's assists to get it on up to 10 per game between the two of them.
Last night he was. And the night before that.
Where have you been this year?
I think he's been a two playing a one his whole career.Tony Parker has never NOT been a point guard in his entire pro career going back to when he was 16. Are you seriously so stupid that you can't see the difference, or are you just pining for attention?
Just my opinion. Are you pining to give my opinion some attention?
Del Negro and Willie sucked at hitting 3s. They always were a foot or two inside the line.
I think I'd be cool calling TP a 1.5.
i'll say Gary Neal has very good Basketball IQ, he just short, not overly skilled, slow and unathletic, but he still know how to be useful and effective, and he gets the most out of his abilities in a honorable manner and anytime that happened it's testify for hige IQ.
besides, playing in unnatural situation for him, having to play out of position, running the point and doing it relative well and successful is also an evidence for hige IQ.
and ofcurse Manu has one of the biggest Basketball IQ in the game, how can be said otherwise, he's like a zen master out there, so so clever, great approach to the game!
Tim and Manu, IMO and it's not close. Manu has always been messy in execution (not just in '06, even today), but his brilliance is clearly off the charts, and he has a tremendous feel for the game.
I think Bonner has almost zero basketball instincts. His BBIQ is hard to determine because he very rarely tries to make any play other than "shoot if open", though I will say his willingness to put the ball on the floor this year and expand his mid-range game is impressive. I give him credit for diligently studying and learning the system as well. But BBIQ...that's hard to say.
I think Parker is a PG. I think he's had the ability to play this way for a while but just took a long road to get here. I'm not saying his play this year is night and day different, but the differences are distinct, if subtle. And I think he has decent BBIQ as well.
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