The remnants remained with Steve Nash.. And you are delusional if you think he is staying after this season.
Nash is either taking his talents to the South Beach or going to another contender.
Loyalty counts only for so much.
The remnants remained with Steve Nash.. And you are delusional if you think he is staying after this season.
Nash is either taking his talents to the South Beach or going to another contender.
Loyalty counts only for so much.
You're either deliberately acting stupid or you're borderline re ed.
San Antonio has at least 8 players noticeably better/more talented than Bonner or Blair. Warrick and Morris are the two best power forwards on the Suns' roster and often times are relied on as scoring options. That's a re ed comparison.
"Hey, the Suns have talent because two of the Suns rotation players relied on to give them production every game are more talented than the Spurs' 9th and 10th best players!"
Spurs going to destroy the Jazz in 4 tbh.
I'll pray to that, tbh
You just called Warrick and Morris B/C-grade role players. That is what Bonner and Blair are. Why don't you get over your butthurt of being eliminated from playoff contention and start thinking about your responses rationally.
I don't want him to stay in Phoenix, I want him gone. It's not me being delusional, it's me being one of the few people who don't automatically associate an undersized white athlete with an intense desire to win.
Nash has it easy in Phoenix. When the Suns win, people herald Nash's ability to carry the team. When they lose, Nash never gets blame but rather his supporting cast does. There's no pressure on him. He's made it abundantly clear going to a team where winning is demanded and expected isn't at the top (or even on) his bucket list.
He's leaving, you can tell by how his responses to being asked what happens after this season have changed these past few months.
Did you read my post? The difference is the fact that Warrick and Morris are just as talented as any other player on the Suns, Bonner and Blair have less talent than at least 8 Spurs players. Since you're stupid enough to think I'm pissed they're not gonna make the playoffs and get swept (even though I've repeatedly said I want them to lose till Sarver leaves), I guess you're stupid enough to not realize the Suns have NOTHING BUT ROLE PLAYERS OUTSIDE OF NASH. Without Nash, this team would be competing with Charlotte for worst record of all time. Warrick, Morris, Telfair and Dudley all have the ceiling of decent bench player. None of them will ever be starters on a contender much less all stars. All but a few players on the Suns right now are bench players.
Name a team other than the Bobcats that has less talent than the Suns.
Thats just stupid. Winning mentality has got nothing to do with race or nationality.
Nash is like any other guy who wants to win. He is also like any other player who wants to win and earn his due money as well. The Phoenix FO kept screwing him by regressing his team's talent, but they were contending till as late as 2 years ago when Kobe overcame them on his own. There wasn't a contending team that could afford him the past 2 years or didn't have a good PG in a strong PG heavy league and that's why he didn't go.
But he is not coming back if Phoenix won't improve and chances are that they won't at all -
http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miam...eat-free-agent
Outside of John Wall the Wizards aren't talented.
Like I've said repeatedly, I hope you and everyone else is right, but the way he's responding to questions right now isn't any worse than how he responded to questions in 2009 when all he was doing then was playing Kerr and Sarver like a board game so they would give him the $11M per extension no other team would give him.
It's not about loyalty, Nash wouldn't take the time to pee on a Suns fan wearing his jersey if that fan was dying in a fire. Nash loves Phoenix because he's above criticism here and has no pressure to do jack . He gets paid an 8 figure salary to go out and "have fun" for 48 minutes not having a care in the world for what the final score is.
The fact you continue to use the same insults over and over and type out that wall of text to try to prove your point exposes your anger. You called those two B/C-grade role players. As I said, Bonner and Blair are similarly ranked role players that you could be stuck with instead of those two, and I asked if you'd take them for those two and you didn't answer.
Also, outside of Deron Williams, the Nets have less talent.
they need to blow up that team, 2 years in row out of the playoffs
I agree, but people automatically assume Nash is some fearless winner because of his skin color when in reality Nash cares about winning no more than Stephon Marbury or Allen Iverson did.
His behavior the last few years is anything but the behavior of someone who wants to win. If he wanted to win, he wouldn't have signed an extension in 2009, and he wouldn't have publicly endorsed Sarver's decision to let Amare leave.
http://sportsbybrooks.com/steve-nash...ba- le-16510
If Nash really wanted to win, he wouldn't have signed an extension in 2009, and in 2010 he woulda been a free agent able to sign for the MLE with LA, Miami, etc. You said it yourself, the Phoenix FO kept reducing his chances of winning yet he kept endorsing their decisions and he's still in Phoenix.
Although it is true that the Suns overachieved, there are many teams with far less talent than the Suns -
Nets despite Deron Williams
Pistons despite Greg Monroe
Cavs despite Kyrie Irving
Wizards despite John Wall
Rockets (another overachiever)
Bobcats obviously
Warriors despite Stephen Curry
Warriors have David Lee, and got Andrew Bogut. They have the potential to have one of the top frontlines in the West.
I'd be indifferent. Does that answer your question?
What the does that mean
"If you take away their best player, the Nets have less talent! Doesn't matter that Deron Williams alone makes the Nets a more talented team than Phoenix, cause I think that saying the Nets without Deron Williams have less talent than Phoenix is somehow a valid argument!"
I'll rephrase the question - Give me a team that with its full roster (not a team minus its best player) that has less talent than the Suns.
You did the same thing with Nash. With Nash on the Suns they are a borderline playoff team, yet even with Deron Williams the Nets can't make the playoffs in a weak East. If you take either away from their respective teams, the Suns would have more talent.
Look, after the Spurs, the Suns are my favorite team. I admit Nash had a large part to do with the success the Suns had this year. However, there are some players on the Suns that make the future not quite as daunting.
But you are assuming he will do that mistake again (if at all it was a mistake in 2009).
After 2009, he made it to the WCF, beating the Spurs who had tripped his team for years..and lost only to the eventual champions who were Kobe-inspired.
If you weigh his extension to the results, 2009-10 was a great year for Nash.
Since then it has been downhill with the Suns doing nothing to improve the team.
There is no way Nash will want to sign another extension in this environment. It is not 2009.
They got Bogut after a trade knowing fully well that he wouldn't play this season. The talk was about this season and not about future ones.
And lol, David Lee!!
Ah, my bad. Also, David Lee is pretty damn good. I'd give up any of the Spurs' current bigmen outside of Timmy and possibly Splitter for him.
Dude. Pop will never want Lee. Aside from mid range shooting and good rebounding, David Lee is a liability. Very poor defender. Boris Diaw is way better than him.
Between Bonner's choking and Lee's defense, their comparison will be a wash though. Except Bonner earns around $3.3 mil, while Lee earns close to $14 mil for the next 5 years apart from this one.
Deron Williams alone gives the Nets more talent. Perhaps I was being unclear, the fact the Suns have a really talented 10th man in Josh Childress is a moot point. The Suns don't have any talent worth building around. Deron Williams gives the Nets a talent infinitely more valuable than anything on the Suns.
Knight and Monroe both give the Pistons chips that can actually be built around. Once again, the Suns don't have any talent that'll ever develop into something more than a role player who comes off the bench on a contender.
What I said about Deron Williams applies to Irving. The Cavs have someone to build around, if you're right and the Suns lose Nash, they're at ground zero.
John Wall >>>>>>>>>>> more talent than anyone on the Suns
Scola would be the best power forward in the Suns by a long shot
Martin would be the best shooting guard on the Suns by a long shot
Lowry & Dragic > Nash & Telfair talent wise
I said anyone but Charlotte
Outside of Charlotte, if you were the GM of New Jersey, Detroit, Cleveland, Washington, or Golden State, would you trade any of their entire rosters for the Suns' roster? Serious question.
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