Exactly.
It was an incredibly stupid trade for the Warriors. Thank goodness for such an incompetent FO, it was the only way to get rid of RJ at such a tiny price.
The GSW paid $11M for:
- a (late) 1st round draft pick
- one year of RJ
- an expiring contract in 2013-2014 instead of 2012-2013
All I'm saying is that it's a bit too much to say they paid $11M only for a draft pick, when the value of my 2nd point is clearly > 0, and the value of the third point is undecided at this stage.
99% chance they got the bad end of the deal, for sure.
Well, if you are being so arithmetic about it, then the GSW paid $11M for -
- a (late) 1st round pick
- one year of RJ (minus one year of S.Jax)
- an expiring contract in 2013-14 which if sold will mean minus one year of RJ
Considering RJs and SJax relative performances since their trades -
1) will be a minor pick barring cirumstances where GSW get a great player that 27 teams missed out on.
2) is clearly less than zero
and 3) is unclear as we don't know what value RJ's expiring will command, but it will still be relatively less than what $11 million of cap space will command otherwise in free agency in 2013-14.
And so, yes.. it is a damn bad deal for GSW even in foresight.
Well, that's one way of looking at it. The assumption here is that a year (or two years) or RJ is worth a bucket of warm spit. After watching him play for 2 1/2 years, I can't disagree with that. He's a bad value. You're paying about a million dollars per point per game.
The value of expiring contract is also higher for teams over the cap, since it's a way of acquiring players who may be good but who's contract runs too long for a team's FA chase plans. GS will likely not be wanting longer contracts, but shorter ones, and that would mean they would have to flip RJ for another expiring, and then you have to get to player comparisions, and RJ suffers in that department.
If RJ being on the team and actually contributing results in wins that results in them losing a lottery pick...
Even though it was not a good deal for GS, i think they still prefer RJ over S-Jax. They didn't want S-Jax in GS at all (and we all know he is a cancer when he is not in the right place) and I am pretty sure they had no takers for him, except for us of course. they could still get a decent player with our pick.
IMO, they should have used the amnesty clause on Biedrins, not Bell. That's what they did wrong.
It would be very RJ of him to come out tonight and screw his own team by dropping 40 on the Spurs tonight.
RJ didn't contribute to any wins. He's been sitting the last few games with a knee injury, I think it's called tank-knee-tis.
RJ vs SJ value for GSW is debatable, as nobody wanted SJ anywhere close to the bay area: not the management, not the coach and not the fans. Actually it wasn't such a bad situation for GSW this trade would never ever had happened, no matter what the Spurs had added to sweeten the deal.
It's impossible to know what kind of salary RJ would have commended on the FA market, but I'd have been surprised if he couldn't find a sucker team to sign him for $4-5 million.
And as to the expiring, we have no way of knowing. Depends a lot on the strength of the FA class in a year and in 2 years, GSW opportunities, etc.
All in all between RJ's one extra year and the "option" on the expiring, it looks this 1st round pick cost them around $5-6 million. That's still way too much indeed.
Bulls won the coin flip with Spurs, So Spurs will send the 30th pick to Warriors.
http://www.nba.com/2012/news/04/27/l...s=iref:nbahpt2
So Warriors end up paying over $11M for the last pick of the first round. Spurs made an awesome deal. However, what's good for Warriors is that they win the coin flip for the 7th pick.
A little extra of Spurs losing the tiebreaker is that they will get the 59th pick instead of the 60th one.
Last edited by Bruno; 04-27-2012 at 04:06 PM.
So warriors did win their flip?
Yep, they can still lose this pick if a team pass them during the lottery (about a 27% chance) but it's a great news for them.
This article, by a Golden State beat writer, analyzes their situation at the SF position. He identifies SF as a position of great need and worth spending a top-7 draft pick to obtain if GS retains their picks. He reviews their current assets at SF at talks about Wright, Rush, and McGuire. Remarkably, there is no mention of the SF that will cost the Warriors over 20M for the next two seasons.
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakam...ards-and-more/
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