unconscious racism

[Wild Cobra]

really. I admit some black people can be prejudice but we are NOT racist, can't be.

You are joking, right? I have met more racist blacks than from any other race.

[Wild Cobra]

We don't live in a country where we are truly equal. So until we do, blacks can't be racist. In order to be racist you must have power and numbers..neither of which do blacks have.

No...

Racism is believing one race is inferior to another. It looks like you believe blacks are inferior, if so, you are a racist.

[Wild Cobra]

Definition of RACISM

1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

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[CitizenDwayne]

When I read the le, my mind immediately went to something a friend said:

"I think the Pixies song 'Monkey Gone to Heaven' is about Martin Luther King's death."

He saw nothing wrong with that statement, and wasn't trying to be funny.

[Wild Cobra]

Don't agree at all. Racism is a world view or a system of thought. Is it linked to the mechanics of power or oppression? Absolutely. But that hierarchy is instantiated first on a way of thinking about people -- and that thought process is racism.

And what you're saying seems to imply that blacks, or hispanics, or other "races" are incapable of racism because they're powerless. I don't find that accurate at all because it seems to presume that power and its exercise is only ins utional and/or majoritarian.

I think it's just another excuse to lay off all blame from themselves. I also think it's an excuse to hate and play victim at the same time.

[Wild Cobra]

Are some people of color in positions of power within their lives or specific situations? Of course.

Can people of color be in positions of power/privilege based on certain other aspects of their iden y? Absolutely.

But are people of color, as a group, in a position of power or the recipients of racial privilege within our society? No.

Corrupted power and racism are two different things, and just because some people combine them, does not mean power is required to be a racist.

[Landon Donofag]

The article is ing stupid. Racism exists because people see God as being white?

Get rid of religion problem solved.

[Wild Cobra]

What is it with all these asinine trolls in this thread?

[KKK]

What is it with all these asinine trolls in this thread?

They speak the truth?

[Trill Clinton]

No...

Racism is believing one race is inferior to another. It looks like you believe blacks are inferior, if so, you are a racist.

[CuckingFunt]

Then by your definition this is not an oppressive society and I have seen super market lines in Meridian, MS. The bold is just absurd. There as so many cliches in broadcast and print media that are "manifest in a societal/cultural system of racial privilege" that I don't even think it should be necessary to point them out.

Take the Texas Congressional Redistricting procedure. If that is not a racially oppressive process cultural system then i do not know what is. However due in no small part the ever more increasing representation of minorities the judicial process is able to be used to enforce the view, re: prejudices, of how minorities would want the districts drawn. By virtue of advocating districts populated by minorities that is prejudicial. That particular white privilege is very much so threatened.

Does that not make the GOP districting policy not racist? Not to me.

I agree that I misunderstood the approach you were taking but my point remains the same. At best its an existential argument but arguments about the separation of consciousness and the mind aside you are making the assumption that there is a single definition of terms. The one you are using certainly doesn't jive with conventional wisdom and as your author points out it doesn't even match the definition in the dictionary.

It just strikes me as a position that allows one to judge policy without muddying the waters with the views of the individual or that prejudice based on race can be benign or even positive. Your author even claims that she rejects the definition in the asking 'whose interest does it serve?' I wonder why that is even necessary.

I don't like broad generalizations to begin with because I think they muddy understanding of what is actually going on. 'Enforceable negative racial prejudice' just doesn't work for me for a word whose roots are 'race' and the suffix -ism. I don't deny the reality of what your author describes however I think inserting that reality into what is already a disputed term serves nobody.

It's not existential. It's theoretical, which I was clear about in my very first post on the subject. It is a concept intended to allow for a discussion of race and racial issues that takes into consideration the environment in which we live and the reality of the power dynamics present within our society as a whole.

The discursive differentiation between "racism" and "prejudice" as terms/concepts has never been about making distinctions between certain at udes or actions, but instead hints at differences amongst the effects or cultural repercussions of those at udes and actions. The statement that only whites can be racist is then not a statement that racial prejudice exhibited by white people is inherently different (or worse, or more evil) than racial prejudice exhibited by people of color, or conversely that racial prejudice exhibited by people of color is inherently better or more justifiable than racial prejudice exhibited by white people. The actions are the same, and are equally divisive/unproductive, across the board.

[RaZon]

We are different. There is no need for bull games. Yet those games...MUST...be played. The whole thing is ridiculous.

I've been called in for jury duty a half dozen times or so, every single time it was the same guy. A young hispanic in trouble.

Why this need to play games?

[CuckingFunt]

We are different. There is no need for bull games. Yet those games...MUST...be played. The whole thing is ridiculous.

I've been called in for jury duty a half dozen times or so, every single time it was the same guy. A young hispanic in trouble.

Why this need to play games?

The "games" are necessary in order to address the issue of why so many trials involve a defendant who is a young male of color. For example.




(Hint: "Because he's brown" isn't the correct answer.)

[RaZon]

The "games" are necessary in order to address the issue of why so many trials involve a defendant who is a young male of color. For example.




(Hint: "Because he's brown" isn't the correct answer.)

Since I don't play games.

Mexicans have this "macho" thing going. Blacks are rarely raised with a father in the home. In my life experiences I've noticed few Mex/blacks enjoy reading. So it's a combination of things.

[CuckingFunt]

Since I don't play games.

Mexicans have this "macho" thing going. Blacks are rarely raised with a father in the home. In my life experiences I've noticed few Mex/blacks enjoy reading. So it's a combination of things.

So you're suggesting that young men of color are more prone to be criminals because they're biologically inclined to grow up in overly masculine and/or fatherless households? That they're, again, biologically inclined to commit crimes?

[RaZon]

So you're suggesting that young men of color are more prone to be criminals because they're biologically inclined to grow up in overly masculine and/or fatherless households? That they're, again, biologically inclined to commit crimes?

Look at Nigeria and Mexico. Look at the crime in Jamaica. What's that tell you?

I'll be as blunt as a central Cali guy can be....Mexicans do not respect the laws and use the system all they can. Common knowlege. They jave no health insurance, no car insurance. Too many kids for what they can afford.

Blacks grow up without that father figure in the home. So where is the discipline?

[CuckingFunt]

Look at Nigeria and Mexico. Look at the crime in Jamaica. What's that tell you?

It tells me that disenfranchised communities with high poverty rates invite corruption, violence, and acts of desperation.

[NASCARdad]

This razon thinks like I do.

[RaZon]

It tells me that disenfranchised communities with high poverty rates invite corruption, violence, and acts of desperation.

How long have those countries been in existence? Why are they...STILL...in that position?

[CuckingFunt]

How long have those countries been in existence? Why are they...STILL...in that position?

Other than the fact that they, like much of the global south, have been repeatedly ed over by the rest of the world?

[RaZon]

Other than the fact that they, like much of the global south, have been repeatedly ed over by the rest of the world?

Do you honestly believe that? You don't have a clue do you? Ever been to Mexico?

[CuckingFunt]

Do you honestly believe that? You don't have a clue do you? Ever been to Mexico?

Yes, I believe that. And, yes, I have been to Mexico.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Lol, at the white man's burden rhetoric from the local rednecks. You guys are obviously pillars of society. I have a question: why is LA, AL and MS still like that?

[RaZon]

Yes, I believe that. And, yes, I have been to Mexico.

Then you'd be about as wrong as wrong gets. Did you get out of the car in Mexico?

[CuckingFunt]

Then you'd be about as wrong as wrong gets. Did you get out of the car in Mexico?

Yes, I did.

However, what you're advocating -- that my ability to assess a country and its inhabitants requires making judgments solely based on their behaviors and living conditions -- is exactly what I think is irresponsible and leads to lazy stereotyping.