The prosecution has alleged that Zimmerman's account of what happened that night is not accurate. The standard for guilt is reasonable doubt. Evidence that shows a pattern of deception throughout this process is relevant.
Funny thing is, I can actually seeing him doing that too.
The prosecution has alleged that Zimmerman's account of what happened that night is not accurate. The standard for guilt is reasonable doubt. Evidence that shows a pattern of deception throughout this process is relevant.
And none of this would have happened had GZ (1) not been a racist and (2) waited 2 mins for law enforcement to arrive. He just had to follow and kill Trayvon.
i wouldn't worry about george. this is florida and his name is zimmerman.
i say put an east german judge on the bench and see what happens.
No because you don't know that Trayvon would've gone on to kill anyone. That's why I said that Trayvon had his faults but he still had plans for the future and was more or less a decent kid.
And also, the lead investigator already said that Zimmerman didn't have his head bashed repeatedly into the pavement. So all that shows so far is that the kid may have broken his nose and/or caused him to lose his balance at some point.
Like I said, making teenage mistakes and not being a saint is not a good reason to shoot someone. If Trayvon had gone on to be a criminal then the legal system would've taken care of his crimes after he committed them and not before. It's not okay to justify Trayvon's death just because he could've killed someone else in the future in spite of the fact that there's no evidence showing that he was leaning in that direction.
GZ exhibits the classic traits of a racist wanna be thug:
"I dont miss driving around scared to hit mexicans walkin on the side of the street, soft ass wanna be thugs messin with peoples cars when they aint around (what are you provin, that you can dent a car when no ones watchin) dont make you a man in my book. Workin 96 hours to get a decent pay check, gettin knifes pulled on you by every mexican you run into!"
From his myspace page most GZ supporters chose to ignore. I wonder what the Mexican or hispanic people who donated to his defense fund think about this
Funny thing about that post, he says "...dont make you a man in my book" but following and killing a child does? What a pussy.
- Grew up with two black girls raised in his house like sisters to him
- Started a business with a black friend
- Rallied the NAACP and black churches to stand up for justice for a homeless black man who was assaulted by a cop's son, and the cop's son was getting away with it
- Mentored two black teenaged boys who he continued to mentor at his own expense when the program funds dried up
- Offered a place to stay to Anthony Woodson, a black friend from high school while he was down on his luck
- Had a black friend close enough to go on national TV and call down the "uncle Tom" accusation thunder upon himself
- Voted for a black president
- Had a black great-grandfather
What a racist...
I'm starting to wonder what exactly a non-black person would have to do in your eyes to earn immunity from the "racist" accusation?
Sounds like a pretty tall order.
I guess in your mind, he shot a black 17 year old so he is definitely a racist no matter what else may be true of him... right? end of story?
But couldn't it be Trayvon's being a thug that got him shot, not being black? Isn't that at least possible? Tell me. Honestly.
Although with the HOA acknowledging an unlicensed Zimmerman with respect to the Neighbourhood Watch, I smell liability charges in that lawsuit. Since apparently the Martin lawyer is on it I'm hoping they get cleaned out as well.
That and the possibility of an ace in the hole is the only thing I can think of that could've driven them to charge Murder 2. I'm guessing that they're going to establish a narrative, use the recording of Martin calling for help (Trayvon's mother to testify), and then prove Zimmerman's lying about most of the important points. After this they'll likely use this as ammo to emotionally manipulate the jury into finding him guilty of that particular charge.
Not a doubt in my mind that murder is probably what happened but I'm still thinking the evidence leads toward Manslaughter (and a lawsuit).
none of what you posted matters. Racists use the same tired line all the time "I'm not racist, my best friend is black!" Please get that tired excuse of him having family and friends who are black out of here. He clearly stated hate speech on his Myspace page.
All that community stuff he was doing with the homeless man? he was just trying to earn community service hours for his criminal justice degree and add it to his resume. There was no good intentions in any of that. If it was, he wouldn't have been making statements about every Mexican he runs into tries to stab him.
The black friend who defended him? Is a COON who is not in touch with the black community and is married to a white woman(nothing wrong with that btw)
I have a great great great white grandfather I have never met...irrelevant.
Hey man, if you think a kid walking home from the store with tea and skittles is Trayvon being a thugh that night, I don't know what else to tell you.
Trayvon being black is what lead to his demise. Just like the other black men across this country who get drug from trucks and shot in cold blood by police, the same person they pay to protect them. If Trayvon was Billy, a 17 year old white kid we wouldn't be having this discussion.Y ou can try to convince me otherwise but save it.
Snipped for size mostly.
You don't have to be a racist to be prejudiced. There's plenty of people who are prejudiced against a particular trait (or what have you) but who will only act on those preconceptions when dealing with someone they don't know on a personal level. Not saying that's what happened with Zimmerman but I just don't buy that particular talking point.
And also, you have absolutely no proof that Trayvon was a thug. None whatsoever. All the evidence suggests that Martin was a regular kid who made some mistakes and was still figuring things out. Hardly a justification to shoot him.
I haven't been following this too closely, but I haven't seen or heard anything that makes me think that the Zimmerman really meant to, or wanted to kill anyone, right up until the gun went off.
Although with the HOA acknowledging an unlicensed Zimmerman with respect to the Neighbourhood Watch, I smell liability charges in that lawsuit. Since apparently the Martin lawyer is on it I'm hoping they get cleaned out as well.
That and the possibility of an ace in the hole is the only thing I can think of that could've driven them to charge Murder 2. I'm guessing that they're going to establish a narrative, use the recording of Martin calling for help (Trayvon's mother to testify), and then prove Zimmerman's lying about most of the important points. After this they'll likely use this as ammo to emotionally manipulate the jury into finding him guilty of that particular charge.
Not a doubt in my mind that murder is probably what happened but I'm still thinking the evidence leads toward Manslaughter (and a lawsuit).
Not sure what the definition of murder is/was, but intent has to be figured into it somewhere, and showing intent in this case would be impossible.
Erk. Sad for both.
Zimmerman, regardless of any trial will live in the prison of his own head for this, until his dying day. I would be willing to bet a great deal of money that he genuinely is sorry, and wishes it never happened.
why did the parents kick out the black kids yet george still lives at home?
In most states I would think so but the legal definition for Murder 2 that I saw in Florida was basically like a worse version of Manslaughter if memory serves. It looked from that one like they'd have to show Zimmerman acted aggressively and recklessly which could be done but is going to likely depend on the physical evidence/proving George is a liar.
I think Murder 1 was the one where they had to show pre-meditation and clear malicious intent.
Agreed on both counts. But, imo, a teenager would still be alive if it hadn't been for his actions and I think it's right that he stand both civil and criminal trial. It was a terrible mistake and I'm sure he'd have gone about things differently if he could turn back time.
Here's my proof:
So you think a 17 year old version of Eminem dressed like this:
Wouldn't have aroused any su ion for Zimmerman? and if that lil' Marshall Matthers thug ass white kid opted to viciously assault Zimmerman, and try to take control of his gun and threatened to kill him with it... you don't think he'd have ended up just as shot, and just as dead?
I disagree.
zimmerman the stalking killer is the victim. lol
where's that utoob of george pissing away 54K?
Cuz if those kids still lived at home they'd have to be reported to Dept of Health and Human services and the amount of monthly benefits they get could be negatively impacted.
TBQH.
What I really wanna know is, how long until it's discovered that the New Orleans Saints were somehow involved?
...So you've got nothingHere's my proof:
Throwing a few punches =/= being a thug. I'm sorry. It just doesn't.
As I said, the lead investigator has already confirmed that Zimmerman didn't have his head bashed repeatedly into the concrete so there was no savage thrill kill in progress at the time either.
Most likely the kid did break his nose and/or cause him to lose his balance however. That still doesn't make him a thug or a future criminal who deserved to die on his way home from the store. Under the same cir stances, most people would've been concerned for their safety. That's just the way it goes.
Support Zimmerman if you want to but you'll need to do better than that if you're going to blame a dead teenager for being shot.
a black guy should kill obama. then it wouldn't be reported, am i right?
Really? How does that work exactly?
So you think a 17 year old version of Eminem dressed like this:
Wouldn't have aroused any su ion for Zimmerman? and if that lil' Marshall Matthers thug ass white kid opted to viciously assault Zimmerman, and try to take control of his gun and threatened to kill him with it... you don't think he'd have ended up just as shot, and just as dead?
I disagree.
Nope. Zimmerman has lived his entire life as the outcast of the family. If he had one wish, it would be to be a white man. He probably would have given eminem a ride to his doorstep.
Now hispanic and black males is another story.
Our Secret Service is full of Zimmermans (see attached photo). There won't be any negros getting anywhere NEAR our beloved President.
maybe they could be lured away with columbian hookers.Our Secret Service is full of Zimmermans (see attached photo). There won't be any negros getting anywhere NEAR our beloved President.
Say for instance, you are 19 and the oldest sibling in a house of 5. You live with your mom and three minor siblings. If you are working, you are required to report your wages as part of monthly household income. If your income is above a certain level - the amount of benefits such as TANF, foodstamps, and other stuff is affected. You basically either need to be working at McDonald's making min wage or slangin' on the corner for your little sisters to eat (the two meals they get at school for free don't taste good and they eat a lot on the weekends).
Or you do what most sensible people do...go to community college, get a bunch of fin aid (including some sweet loans) via fafsa to show you are low income (and a student, so the government doesn't expect you to be putting money in the household), and then spend it on putting some rims on your 2010 mazda6 and some sneakers. Don't worry about the loans, they say you gotta pay them back but just go into the military when they get serious about it and they'll forgive them. Hope that helped!
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