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    Hasn't smoked it? Moi.
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    You're the funny brownie kind?
    I've had it in brownie form. Didn't see what all the fuss is about, though, so never had much temptation to try smoking it.

    Grew up with a mom who was a rather unabashed pothead. Could be that so much of my young life was spent in a perpetual state of contact high that I've developed an immunity.
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    Now he's claiming that Trayvon circled his SUV and that Travyon covered up Zimmerman's mouth (which would discredit his claim that he was screaming for his life.) It doesn't sound like the prosecutor is buying it.


    Source: Zimmerman says Trayvon circled his SUV, frightened him

    George Zimmerman told investigators that while he was on the phone with a Sanford police dispatcher reporting Trayvon Martin as su ious, the teenager was circling his vehicle on foot, a source familiar with the investigation told the Orlando Sentinel.

    The source said Zimmerman's account of events hasn't changed in his several statements to police — in which he said he was so unnerved by the teen's behavior that he rolled up his window to avoid a confrontation. However, he never mentioned any of that while talking to the dispatcher.


    The details revealed by the source provide new insight into what Zimmerman said happened in the earliest moments of his contact with Trayvon. And they may reveal the inconsistencies alluded to by prosecutors in the case.

    One of those inconsistencies: Zimmerman told police Trayvon had his hand over Zimmerman's mouth during their fight on the night he shot Trayvon
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    Now he's claiming that Trayvon circled his SUV and that Travyon covered up Zimmerman's mouth (which would discredit his claim that he was screaming for his life.) It doesn't sound like the prosecutor is buying it.
    Tbh, the prosecutor is in no position to "buy" anything. She's all about selling, like every other prosecutor.
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    oh well...people be crazy...
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    Now he's claiming that Trayvon circled his SUV and that Travyon covered up Zimmerman's mouth (which would discredit his claim that he was screaming for his life.) It doesn't sound like the prosecutor is buying it.


    Source: Zimmerman says Trayvon circled his SUV, frightened him

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    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...ice-department
    If Zimmerman is on record telling police Trayvon was suffocating him, the voice on the tape is clearly Trayvon... and at that point Murder 2 is probably a legitimate charge to consider.

    The voice on the tape is clearly of a man begging for his life and shooting someone in the chest in spite of them begging for their life for nearly one minute indeed meets the element of "depraved indifference for human life".

    His claim for self defense also goes down the toilet if Trayvon was circling his car, yet for some inexplicable reason he got out of his car. It's also incomprehensible why he wouldn't mention this to the 911 dispatcher. He specifically told the dispatcher that Travyon ran away from him. The guy circles your freaking car, then runs away from you?! LOL.

    If he's on record to police saying there was a struggle for his gun, yet there is no DNA or fingerprints of Trayvon on the gun, he's going to jail for life.

    The guy is clearly hiding something if this article is accurate... He adopted the kitchen sink approach of throwing a mul ude of lies out there and hoping one stuck instead of just sticking to one plausible story that passed the common sense test. To think he almost got away with it...
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    Zimmerman got some ing nerve telling the witness that he was the one screaming for help so he could cover his tracks. Did Zimmerman even tell the cops that he screamed for help in the initial police report? Don't remember.
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    maybe i'm wrong. maybe he has to take the stand.
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    maybe i'm wrong. maybe he has to take the stand.
    Seriously, for the good of everyone, the best outcome is if he kills himself and Florida rewrites their gun laws.
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    Seriously, for the good of everyone, the best outcome is if he kills himself and Florida rewrites their gun laws.
    I think the best outcome would be to have some kind of law pertaining to free speech. Not to limit free speech, but to hold all media outlets accountable for inaccurate information they propagate. What is... remember people, I said what if... the media was required to spend the same enthusiasm and time retracting a position they falsely made when it is found out they reported it wrong?
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    I think the best outcome would be to have some kind of law pertaining to free speech. Not to limit free speech, but to hold all media outlets accountable for inaccurate information they propagate. What is... remember people, I said what if... the media was required to spend the same enthusiasm and time retracting a position they falsely made when it is found out they reported it wrong?
    IDK...that's complicated. I'd be OK, if they would lower the tax on alcohol. Or maybe subsidize hummus. I'm addicted to that .
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    ^ yeah...so sue me
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    I think the best outcome would be to have some kind of law pertaining to free speech. Not to limit free speech, but to hold all media outlets accountable for inaccurate information they propagate. What is... remember people, I said what if... the media was required to spend the same enthusiasm and time retracting a position they falsely made when it is found out they reported it wrong?
    You can't hold yourself to that standard.
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    Now he's claiming that Trayvon circled his SUV and that Travyon covered up Zimmerman's mouth (which would discredit his claim that he was screaming for his life.) It doesn't sound like the prosecutor is buying it.


    Source: Zimmerman says Trayvon circled his SUV, frightened him

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    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...ice-department
    I was wondering when the prosecution was going to leak something.
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    There were pot seeds in Trayvon's backpack once.

    CASE CLOSED.
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    If Zimmerman is on record telling police Trayvon was suffocating him, the voice on the tape is clearly Trayvon... and at that point Murder 2 is probably a legitimate charge to consider.

    The voice on the tape is clearly of a man begging for his life and shooting someone in the chest in spite of them begging for their life for nearly one minute indeed meets the element of "depraved indifference for human life".

    His claim for self defense also goes down the toilet if Trayvon was circling his car, yet for some inexplicable reason he got out of his car. It's also incomprehensible why he wouldn't mention this to the 911 dispatcher. He specifically told the dispatcher that Travyon ran away from him. The guy circles your freaking car, then runs away from you?! LOL.

    If he's on record to police saying there was a struggle for his gun, yet there is no DNA or fingerprints of Trayvon on the gun, he's going to jail for life.

    The guy is clearly hiding something if this article is accurate... He adopted the kitchen sink approach of throwing a mul ude of lies out there and hoping one stuck instead of just sticking to one plausible story that passed the common sense test. To think he almost got away with it...
    Yeah... I know I was talking about Manslaughter before I saw this but now I think you're right in that the prosecution may not be overcharging. Murder 2 is a life sentence right?

    I just wish there was some way of adding to his sentence because this is the most insulting story I've heard from his side yet. Unbelievable. If the bullet forensics show that Zimmerman had the physically dominant position (and at this point I'm thinking they probably will because of the lack of blood), if I'm the jury I convict him. The only question is whether or not he can be sued if he's in jail.

    Trayvon's parents deserve to have their son back and all the money in the world can't do that for them.

    But between these lies and this new story, I think they should be en led to some compensation courtesy of Zimmerman.

    Zimmerman got some ing nerve telling the witness that he was the one screaming for help so he could cover his tracks. Did Zimmerman even tell the cops that he screamed for help in the initial police report? Don't remember.
    It takes a special kind of gutlessness to shoot someone and then tell everyone that the cries of your victim came from you. Words cannot describe how disgusted I am.

    I was wondering when the prosecution was going to leak something.
    I thought O'Mara had gotten the judge to seal most of the evidence though. Either way though this is pretty serious. If I'm O'Mara I don't let Zimmerman take the stand although I'm not sure how helpful that'll be if they've got his statements and the physical evidence more or less on their side.
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    Seriously, for the good of everyone, the best outcome is if he kills himself and Florida rewrites their gun laws.
    Respect.

    I'm not sure that their gun laws should be rewritten is my thing. It looks like the reason why Zimmerman was given legal permits to begin with was because he got off easy on what should have been at least one felony charge.

    I'd be in favour of more stringent background checks and the like but I'm not sure what they can do besides better enforce what's already written or perhaps write a law that forces applicants with criminal records to be reviewed more carefully. I don't really know.
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    Respect.

    I'm not sure that their gun laws should be rewritten is my thing. It looks like the reason why Zimmerman was given legal permits to begin with was because he got off easy on what should have been at least one felony charge.

    I'd be in favour of more stringent background checks and the like but I'm not sure what they can do besides better enforce what's already written or perhaps write a law that forces applicants with criminal records to be reviewed more carefully. I don't really know.
    Yeah I agree with the background checks. They gave a permit to a man that has a history of violence against authorities and anger issues. So stupid. Why is America so lax with the guns?
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    I thought O'Mara had gotten the judge to seal most of the evidence though. Either way though this is pretty serious. If I'm O'Mara I don't let Zimmerman take the stand although I'm not sure how helpful that'll be if they've got his statements and the physical evidence more or less on their side.
    Some one leaked it or the Orlando Sentinel wouldn't be making that claim. They did say they at least contested the account of how he got his head wound and they are charging him with murder.

    Do you think this account of circling his car and what not matches up with what you think is the physical evidence? I personally have no idea.
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    Yeah I agree with the background checks. They gave a permit to a man that has a history of violence against authorities and anger issues. So stupid. Why is America so lax with the guns?
    Do you know that as a fact, or are you just believing reported accounts that may be inaccurate?
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    Yeah I agree with the background checks. They gave a permit to a man that has a history of violence against authorities and anger issues. So stupid. Why is America so lax with the guns?
    I think in general people are way too protective over things that entertain them. Too many folks have this idea that a gun is toy or a source of self-esteem as opposed to a tool that can kill. I'm definitely of the opinion that gun-related deaths and injuries need to come with harsher penalties and that it should be more difficult to get a gun (forget about concealed carry).

    It's sad that it's come to that though because I'd be more in favour of everyone being trained in basic gun safety and taught how to use them properly. The thing is we've reached a point where people can't be trusted to use their weapons responsibly.

    Some one leaked it or the Orlando Sentinel wouldn't be making that claim. They did say they at least contested the account of how he got his head wound and they are charging him with murder.

    Do you think this account of circling his car and what not matches up with what you think is the physical evidence? I personally have no idea.
    That's my take with respect to the Orlando Sentinel as well so I don't doubt that the story's likely legit. I just don't understand why Zimmerman spent that much time talking to them. Between this, the website, and the apology I think his lawyers need to reign him in.

    I'm not sure the vehicle-circling makes a difference in the grand scheme of things for him legally. Even if Trayvon is circling his vehicle and Zimmerman rolls his window up to avoid a confrontation as he calls the police, according to the 911 call that's on record the kid ran away from him when he opened the door and got out. Plus it begs the question of why he left his vehicle to begin with.

    What's bothering me though is that I think Zimmerman would've told the 911 operator if Trayvon had actually been circling his car as opposed to walking past him. Actually, I don't even know how that scenario is possible if Zimmerman was trailing him by car for a couple blocks before that point.

    In my opinion, Zimmerman's purpose for sharing that was so that he could establish Martin as a legitimate threat in his narrative.

    As for the part about Zimmerman telling the cops that Trayvon was covering his mouth and that he was the one calling for help...

    I've criticized the officers at the scene as well as the police department and the District Attorney but whoever interviewed Zimmerman at the station did a fantastic job if they managed to drag this much out of him.
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    I think in general people are way too protective over things that entertain them. Too many folks have this idea that a gun is toy or a source of self-esteem as opposed to a tool that can kill. I'm definitely of the opinion that gun-related deaths and injuries need to come with harsher penalties and that it should be more difficult to get a gun (forget about concealed carry).
    We have far more traffic deaths from people being careless while driving. Accident my ass... Most traffic accidents have a cause that could have been prevented if traffic laws were enforced. Death by legal use of a car is so much more common than death by legal possession of a firearm.
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