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    Him and Tony were drafted the same year, they've got the same age
    Arenas was a superstar, Tony was always considered as an average PG by national media, and today one is trash material and the other is HOF material .

    Why ?

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    why u create fkn threads of scrubs in the spurs section?

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    Lack of effort, playing for bad coaches, legal problems, playing for bad franchises. I'd say that summarizes a lot of the problems Arenas faces.

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    Yulp

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    Arenas banging too much hoes, while Tony's banging classy ladies in moderation -teammates wife not withstanding, that's why.

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    Arenas banging too much hoes, while Tony's banging classy ladies in moderation -teammates wife not withstanding, that's why.
    probably the best answer tnx.

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    He's had major procedures on his knee and his explosiveness was why he was so good 6 years ago. That's gone now.

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    He's had major procedures on his knee and his explosiveness was why he was so good 6 years ago. That's gone now.
    but wasnt he known moer for his shooting then whatever athletic he had...?

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    Arenas was a "superstar" on a mediocre to bad Washington Wizards team.

    Parker was a "star" on an elite, championship winning, San Antonio Spurs team.

    Arenas got the acclaim because he was afforded the opportunity to be a chucker and put up great individual numbers. In the end though his team never won anything though.

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    Arenas was a "superstar" on a mediocre to bad Washington Wizards team.

    Parker was a "star" on an elite, championship winning, San Antonio Spurs team.

    Arenas got the acclaim because he was afforded the opportunity to be a chucker and put up great individual numbers. In the end though his team never won anything though.
    Pretty much this. To the media, big scorer = superstar, and it doesn't matter how much you chuck to get there.

    That's also why the expectations on RJ were so high. "OMG Spurs traded scraps for a 20 PPG scorer" and such.

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    another stupid thread. go away.

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    Him and Tony were drafted the same year, they've got the same age
    Arenas was a superstar, Tony was always considered as an average PG by national media, and today one is trash material and the other is HOF material .

    Why ?
    Arenas was never a superstar. He was just one of those guys who managed to put up huge numbers without his team ever being better off for it. Basically he was a Carmelo Anthony before we knew Carmelo Anthony was a Carmelo Anthony.

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    Cuz he's not a gunner anymore

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    2 or 3 major surgeries will do that to you. He missed almost an entire season a couple years back.

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    A somewhat shorter career than another "superstar" Alan Iverson who had many of the same issues but could chuck the ball into the basket with the best of them.

    There was a great discussion on NBA-TV among the retired stars and vets like Shaq, Kenny Smith, Barkley, Steve Smith, Chris Weber and Steve Kerr about why some players were true stars and some never lived up to their potential, like Arenas.

    All agreed that injuries could play a part although many of them and players they cited had come back from injuries and re-adjusted their games in order to continue to play. [Ref. Antonio McDyess.]

    However, the most mentioned characteristic was simply "dedication" to the game and to improving their own game all the time. Players who rest on their sheer physical ability or shooting talent, have mental issues and burn the candle at both ends tend to burn out early without long distinguished careers.

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    Why ginobili fan sucks so much ?

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    why u create fkn threads of scrubs in the spurs section?
    no right

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    Why so many random threads during playoff time?

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    Why so many random threads during playoff time?
    Probably because spurs haven't played for a week

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    @ people actually responding his stupid question.

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    Arenas was a "superstar" on a mediocre to bad Washington Wizards team.

    Parker was a "star" on an elite, championship winning, San Antonio Spurs team.

    Arenas got the acclaim because he was afforded the opportunity to be a chucker and put up great individual numbers. In the end though his team never won anything though.
    This is so true. Although guys like Tony and Manu will have their reward when they get to the HoF, I think it's kind of unfair that the average NBA fan will remember them just as role players on a championship team when they are much more than that.

    Does anyone here really think that Tony or Manu wouldn't be able to put at least 25 ppg while chucking 20 shots?

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    Probably because spurs haven't played for a week
    It's only been 4 days but you're right... Feels like a lifetime!

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    dude is shot to

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    Him and Tony were drafted the same year, they've got the same age
    Arenas was a superstar, Tony was always considered as an average PG by national media, and today one is trash material and the other is HOF material .

    Why ?
    Because the press is usually wrong.

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