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I know, huh?Tony Parker 1st team
...and they call me a homer.
LeHype at SG? Wow.
I know, huh?
...and they call me a homer.
In all-teams tbh there's no differentiation between a PG, SG, SF, and PF. It's 2 Gs and 2 Fs.
TBH I dont think Melo should be mentioned in this conversation.
ty defender and an offensive player who doesn't make teamamtes better.
OK. Well, LeHype is not a guard and Tony Parker hasn't had a better year than Kobe. More than one poster mistakenly put these two players in front of Kobe.
...and before anyone goes there, LeHype legitamitely won the MVP. As long as he doesn't win Finals MVP, I'm good.
G Paul
G Bryant
F Durant
F Lebron
C Howard
I'm trying to find a reason to put Dwight or Bynum in the first team.
No Blake Griffin. Dude needs to stop getting awards for this perceived potential. Tim Duncan was much more effective than Blake this year.
I would argue Tony over Kobe just on MVP votes alone. If I was building a team though, I wouldn't want 2 PG style players over a dominant PG and a dominant player like Kobe.
Pretty much a canned answer you could have given before the season started.
Kobe does not belong in there. Lost on you though I'm sure. Might as well have Kevin Love.
Not even close between the two
That's a debatable point. Whatever flaws Blake has in his game, he still puts up elite production. And I think awards like all-NBA honors puts a significant emphasis on statistical production. Duncan was still productive and if you translate his numbers per minute, there's definitely an argument that Duncan was at least as good as Blake. But again, it's merely arguable.
And while Blake isn't nearly as good as some try to make him and a lot of it has to do with "perceived potential," it's not like he doesn't produce at all. 20/10 on 55% shooting from the field is still elite production. We're not talking about Anthony Randolph stats here. Griffin deserves a lot of criticism on many fronts, but based on production alone, I think he deserves all NBA honors. Not first team, but he should be on one of the other teams.
Parker played 32 minutes per game. Paul played 39, and his numbers were barely better. No homer. Parker had NO help and carried his team and kept them in it for probably the first 7 weeks while Duncan struggled and Manu recovered. People rave about the Spurs depth, but they didn't have that until late March when Manu came back, Diaw was signed and they traded for Jack. Before that, it was Tony, an improving Tim, and a bunch of dudes in black and silver.I know, huh?
...and they call me a homer.
17/6 is hardly elite production, and his game before that he had what, 15 and 11? KG is destroying that, demolishing it, and KG is damn near petrified he's so old.
These are the playoffs. No way Chris Paul should be the leading scorer if Blake is an elite PF. Dude has hops, not much else.
I guess you've forgotten Parker tearing your team a new asshole in LA.I know, huh?
...and they call me a homer.
He's averaging 20 and 7 for the series and shooting 56% from the field. KG averaged 19 and 11 on 51% shooting. Blake hasn't rebounded the ball well. But his production isn't horrible.
And again, we're talking about the all NBA honors. Are you aware that all NBA honors are regular season awards?
"isn't horrible" vs "elite level"
See the conflict?
I am aware they are regular season awards. My point was that Blake is given credit he doesn't deserve. Kevin Love has sick regular season numbers, where's he at on the list?
I asked the question first.
OK. Well, LeHype is not a guard and Tony Parker hasn't had a better year than Kobe. More than one poster mistakenly put these two players in front of Kobe.
...and before anyone goes there, LeHype legitamitely won the MVP. As long as he doesn't win Finals MVP, I'm good.
That is not the point of the debate. Kobe did not have a better year than Parker; not head-to-head or team success.
Not even close between the two
If Blake didn't have monster dunks, he would be just another decent player with limited potential. He cannot shoot FTs worth a damn, has no legit outside shot and his post game is weak other than dunking the ball.
"Isn't horrible" in the playoffs.
"Elite production" in the regular season.
Seeing that you understand they are regular season honors, you should get the basis of him earning the award.
I have to agree with Jamstone. Firstly, it's regular season, so the playoffs have no bearing. The playoffs validate what many of us talk about though and that is "impact" vs "production".
It's a weird thing to look at 20/11 on 55% FG and nitpick every little flaw that a person has. It's elite production for the regular season and he's obviously talented (especially if everyone says he isn't very good and he still puts up those numbers). Blake isn't as impactful of a "star" as many make him out to be, but he's no where near as bad as many on here portay him to be either. He needs work if he is to be great, but he is still really damn good.
He put up 20 10 on 55% shooting.
As Jamstone said, he isn't some Anthony Randolph-like chimp who has potential but puts up below average numbers.
rofl classic Spurfan "chose the opinion that best suites my argument at the time"
In a Tony Parker conversation:
Spurs suck, Tony carried everyone! It was a one man show!
In a Spurs vs. Lakers prediction thread:
It's simple - No ONE, not even the biggest Spurs homer could have predicted the Spurs would have the best record in the league this year - especially with Manu missing like 40%of the season.
I get what you are saying DoK, but on that same token, yall can't have it both ways either. You can't preseason say "Spurs are done, lol relying on Gary Neal, Danny Green, a rookie and M
", then say "OMG the Spurs are so deep, TP gets no credit"
Parker gets credit, it ain't like I'm saying he shouldn't make any all NBA team. I think Kobe deserves 1st team before him doe.
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