Parker had no help
Yes Parker had help.... you know, with this being the deepest team in the league by far... and in this case, TP being on a stacked team that was able to keep pace for the best overall record without Manu probably hurts his chances of being 1st team. Paul is the better PG, and I hope people are ing joking about Kobe/TP comparisons.
I just disagree. When looking at awards I look at expectations, stats & team success the most then factor in injuries and talent around the player. I'm not saying Parker is a better player than Kobe. I'm not even saying Kobe isn't an all-nba player. I'm saying that based on the critera above, I have TP over Kobe this year no matter where that is (meaning TP first team, or second team). I can see an argument to have them both 2nd team, but not Kobe over TP.
I don't look at expectations at all, that's the difference. People over-analyzing expectations are how Steve N
Agree to a certain extent, but for the Spurs to have the best record in the league?
They only lost 10 more games without Amare! Give Nash another MVP!People over-analyzing expectations are how Steve N
Still boggles my mind.
Kobe on the first team would be an absolute travesty. I cant think of any player who is up for consideration for All-NBA selection, that cost his team as many games as Kobe did with his 30% shooting night every 5 games or so. Dirk and his 6 rpg on any NBA team would be just as bad.
Hopefully this last game proves my point about Griffin. was on the bench, where he needed to be. Tim would never have been on the bench in a close out game like that.
I heard he injured his knee, tbh.
But I'm not sure anyone on the right mind would around Timmy over Griffin. Doesn't change the fact that he was a 20-10 55% FG guy in the regular season and deserves an All-NBA spot.
Not sure what you are attempting to say here.
Here's DA's take:
ALL NBA TEAMS
ALL-NBA FIRST TEAM
Guards: Kobe Bryant, Lakers; Tony Parker, Spurs
Forwards: LeBron James, Heat; Kevin Durant, Thunder
Center: Dwight Howard, Magic
ALL-NBA SECOND TEAM
Guards: Chris Paul, Clippers; Dwyane Wade, Heat
Forwards: Kevin Love, Timberwolves; Carmelo Anthony, Knicks
Center: Andrew Bynum, Lakers
ALL NBA THIRD TEAM
Guards: Russell Westbrook, Thunder; Rajon Rondo, Celtics
Forwards: LaMarcus Aldridge, Portland; Dirk Nowitzki, Mavericks
Center: Marc Gasol, Memphis
No mention of Blake Griffin. I don't disagree with that. Which forward would you remove to add Blake?
Yes I realize the nepotism.
Because on this you have no clue ... Paul has been amazing. Parker too its close and I can see a case for all 3. But if anyone is getting bumped its Parker or Paul.
Parker may have had a great year but lettuce be real tea... there's really no argument for putting him over Kobe, who even in the worst of imaginable of seasons, is far superior to Parker. I don't think you factor in mvp considerations when it comes to picking All-NBA teams. Just who the best players are in that given year.
My selections:
Guards: Kobe Bryant, Chris Paul
Forwards: Lebron James, Kevin Durant
Center: Dwight Howard
Guards: Rose, Wade
Forwards: Melo, Dirk
Center: Bynum
Guards: Westbrook, Parker
Forwards: Kevin Love, Tim Duncan
Center: Marc Gasol
I could see them leaving Rose off entirely since he missed a good chunk of the season, and there's a small chance they move Bynum up to 1st team since Dwight missed a good chunk also. I'm gonna guess Parker will make the 2nd team, and Tim Duncan might not make any of the teams. Garnett also had a pretty good season so he has a shot as well if some don't think Dirk or Melo deserves their spot.
Lemme guess. Wade > Kobe, right? Only in FTAs.
So lemme get this straight.... TP > CP3? Does that about sum it up?
Remember, the Sun shines on a dog's ass every once in a while.
How is Kobe 1st team, seriously? Dude cost the Lakers 5-10 games with his 30% shooting nights. Hes the most protected superstar by the media ever tbh.
Parker sunburned Lakers ass.Remember, the Sun shines on a dog's ass every once in a while.
I could take off LA in this scenario and not feel like a travesty was committed. A lot of players that could make the team.
Kobe has two of the best big men in the game on his team, both could be on the All NBA teams, so how you give so much credit to Kobe is beyond comprehension for anyone other than a Lakers homer. No other Spur makes either All NBA team, and Parker finished 5th in MVP voting as a PG and SA had the best record in the West.
Kobe lost the scoring le race, lost the MVP race, lost his wife, his houses, his hairline is receding, he's getting fat, he throws his teammates under the bus, s on his coach ad nauseum. He has no place on any All NBA team.
1st Team All-NBA:
Tony Parker
Kobe Bryant
Kevin Durant
Lebron James
Andrew Bynum
The vast majority of the media hates him due to Kate Faber's lying ass. I'd agree with you before that incident but afterwards? no. If they loved him as much as you say, Nash gets one MVP instead of the year Kobe's 35.4ppg dragged the likes of Mihm, Kwame, Smush Parker, and Luke Walton to the playoffs.
I GUARANTEE you that won't happen in the playoffs (if we meet). That one game he had was insane. Won't be repeated though.
Of course you do. You're a dip homer who always expects the other team to underperform and your own team to overperform.
You're funny. Do you honestly think TP will have at least 4 games like that against the Lakers in the playoffs? If so, you are insane. It will take at least 4 performances like that for you guys to get past LA.
Do I expect TP to have a game or two whereas he gets loose? Sure. The Lakers never had a PG stopper (even back to the Showtime days). However, we are more than equipped to slow him down and keep him out of the lane by throwing either of Kobe or MWP at him - while having Bynum waiting for him at the rim should he get by them. If he gets points, the vast majority will be from the perimeter shooting 18 footers. That fastbreak layup he got a few weeks ago will be controlled.
And I don't expect our team to overperform. I do expect them to play to their potential which will be good enough to get to the Finals and win the damn thing. If we win games ugly (i.e. 89-83 or some like that) I'm good.
Kobe has never been able to guard Parker, going all the way back to '03. And I don't expect Parker to drop 30 every game against the Lakers, but you soon forget that Parker has evolved his game to become a pretty damn good facilitator now, so all the Spurs need from him is a solid 18-22 points a game while keeping everyone else involved. I'm not worried about him getting his. My main concern in a matchup with the Lakers is getting killed on the offensive glass and giving the Lakers a dozen or more second chance shots.
Your team is absolute at stopping the pick 'n roll and keeping fast guards out of the lane. And that won't change just because you say it will. The Lakers are fundamentally deficient in that area.
If the series does happen, the Lakers will win it if they shut down Duncan, control the boards, and keep the Spurs from lighting it up from downtown, which they are much better equipped to do than stopping Parker. In fact, if Parker goes off and averages big numbers, that's actually worse for the Spurs because it means the Lakers will have forced him into being primarily a scorer, neutralizing his playmaking.
And hate to break it to you, but the Lakers at their full potential doesn't make them a superior team to OKC. OKC's A game is better than the Lakers' A game. You guys will have to overachieve something fierce to win that series.
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