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How the does Israel Gutierrez get work, I mean seriously. I looked at his predictions for all the first round series, and short of the obvious ones (Heat-Knicks) and (Orlando-Indiana), he couldn't predict .
Does he do research? Does he consider himself and analyst? Because he doesn't do any of it. I wouldn't mind if he didn't think that the Spurs were capable of winning it all and could back it up with a cogent argument. The problem is he can't, its just "I don't think the Spurs are that good" type of crap.
Favorite quote "Yes, they can outscore you, but the Spurs as a defensive team is a thing of the past." Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the team that OUTSCORES the other wins the game. No? Is it the team with the most rebounds now, or blocks?
Seriously, if the Spurs win it all this year, I say the entirety of ST spams the out of this guy for his ty analysis. I know its ESPN, but still this is a new low.
what a
He is en led to his opinion as a Heat homer either way. He did say that Heat have more (star) firepower and better defense, and that was why.
I agree that he is a dip , but not going to base that only on the fact that he dissented with the others.
Not saying you did that either, just quoted to get the topic back on this clown.
I would concur his takes don't make a lot of sense. He threw in there a "healthy" Heat team. Therefore read between the lines he thinks we can beat them without Bosh, but it pains him to say it outright.
That leaves only the Thunder. Star power I can buy, but I don't consider OKC defense a strength at all. Not sure the stats there, but they seem to be an offensive team to me also. Should be a fun series.
Also will be fun watching this guy either vanish, or acknowledge he was wrong and the Spurs are great. Either way we win.
Although it's been said many times, many ways:
Gutierrez = (LeBronda James) KING-SIZED TOOL.
Thunder a BETTER team than the Spurs? Is that why in the Reg. Season We beat them HANDILY by 10+ pts per contest?
Gutierrez = L-O-S-E-R. SOME respect would be appreciated. However, I don't respect him so I can't really expect the same in return.
Gutierrez: No need to start acting like a lady. Don't worry, you'll be back on your knees in no time.
Gutierrez is the same clown who picked us going 7 against Utah.
not really surprised tbh
He's painful to look at. I guess ESPN needed to hire a Latino and he timed it right or something.
From the article:
"Fact or Fiction: The Spurs are the best team in the NBA."
Abbott, Arnovitz, Stein, Windhorst: "Fact."
Gutierrez: "Fiction."
"Fact or Fiction: The Spurs will win the 2012 NBA le."
Abbott, Arnovitz, Stein, Windhorst: "Fact."
Gutierrez: "Fiction."
Pop is not even in the conversation till he can defend a le. As Spoelstra is showing in Miami having the best players doesn't guarantee you a le.
Remember: there's a fair chance that even the guy who put together the piece thinks he's a complete tool. But having 5 guys agree on everything is boring. So if everyone reasonable is going to say the same thing, you have to go find a dumbass and bring him into the discussion in order to get anything approaching debate.From the article:
"Fact or Fiction: The Spurs are the best team in the NBA."
Abbott, Arnovitz, Stein, Windhorst: "Fact."
Gutierrez: "Fiction."
"Fact or Fiction: The Spurs will win the 2012 NBA le."
Abbott, Arnovitz, Stein, Windhorst: "Fact."
Gutierrez: "Fiction."
LOL on Westbrooke, Durant or even James being transcendal superstars a salient point can be made that the only TRUE superstars in the NBA are Duncan and Kobe with multiple les and longterm "transcendal" accomplishments; while Dirk, KG, Kidd, Wade and a few others can at least make a case helping to lead teams to les.
Who the is Israel Gutierrez and why does he sound like GNLF?
They can "make a case" that they led teams to les? Dirk, KG, and Wade did lead teams to les. That's a fact.
LOL Israel getting butt ed in the comments section. got probably likes it too
I'm surprised most NBA fans don't only believe Spurs are favorites, but actually get offended when someone does not give them props
You forget, it's ESPN. "Transcendant superstar" = "dunks a lot"
Who cares what Israel Gutierrez thinks? I'll take Marc Stein's opinion over a nobody any day of the week. He's usually very fair in his analysis.
Israel gets the Latino viewer, and he's a hard core Latino homer. He prides himself on going against the flow of conventional thought, and more often than not he looks like a tool. That one time he'll be right will be the time when he will stand up and say "see, I told you".
Windhorst: Fact. They're my favorite at the moment. Right now they remind me a bit of the Argentinean national team from the 2002-06 era, a brilliantly coached team with players who knew each other so well, knew and executed their roles perfectly and consistently, had their systems so well-oiled they could perform them under any cir stance, and were the definition of a great "team." That's what the Spurs are doing right now.
Isn't that how teams beat other teams, you stupid jackass bag?!??????Fact or fiction: the Spurs win the 2012 le
Gutierrez: Fiction. Still sticking by the tried and true idea that an offense-first team rarely wins it all. The Spurs were 17th in the regular season in field goal percentage allowed and are dead last among the remaining teams in that category. Yes, they can outscore you....
Not to stick up for Israel Gutierrez but the Spurs are far from assured of a championship right now. One game into the second round ... there's a long way and two extremely tough matchups remaining if the Spurs are going to reach their goal.
It's perfectly acceptable for someone to think the Spurs won't win the championship, tbh.
Last edited by timvp; 05-17-2012 at 02:03 PM.
Too many people on the bandwagon, I don't like it
meh, whatever just enjoy the ride.
IMO OKC-Spurs is a 50-50 series.
Israel Gutierrez, ESPN.com: Fiction. They might have the best offensive balance and the deepest team in the league, but I'd still lean toward the teams with potentially dominant defenses and transcendent superstars. The Thunder and a healthy Heat team are still better than the Spurs.
OKC has a dominant defense..
The hype is a bit troubling. There is such a long way to go and one injury wrecks everything.. One game at a time just cheer and be modest about it..
Four out of the five writers say the Spurs are basically the team to beat, and everyone wants to focus on the one who doesn't? And even Israel Gutierrez can only name Miami and OKC as teams that can beat the Spurs. That's about all you can get from these kinds of articles, since the only thing that really matters is what happens on the court.
Spurs got HCA. That gives 65-35
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