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They shouldn't have wasted valuable cap space on guys like Battier and Miller and focused on guys like Sam Dalembert to shore up the front court. The supporting cast is an absolute joke.
... you can go right ahead and yourself.
Is Bosh a valuable member of the team? Of course. But you still have the consensus best player in the NBA, and one of the consensus top 5 players in the NBA in Wade. That's not enough?
"But our bench sucks! Wahhh! My vagina is so itchy and red and the antibiotics aren't working!!!"
You know what? That's what happens when you have two of the best players in the NBA. They cost money. Don't act like you didn't ing know that already.
If Lebron and Wade can't get past the ing Pacers (do you think anyone that didn't watch the NBA would know one player on that team? Do you think they'd even know there was a team from Indiana?) they deserve all the ridicule they'll be getting.
They shouldn't have wasted valuable cap space on guys like Battier and Miller and focused on guys like Sam Dalembert to shore up the front court. The supporting cast is an absolute joke.
It's not enough when Wade is playing like the 30th best player in the NBA. That's the problem with the Heat right now. Wade goes for his usual 25-28, this series is 3-0, so you're correct that the Bosh excuse can be considered something of a stretch. The Heat without Bosh should have enough firepower to beat the Pacers. Problem is, one of those weapons is misfiring.
Quality thread LnG. When the Lakers had 2 of the best players in the world + scrubs, they 3peated. Maybe Bron and Wade are not as good as advertised?
Miami chose to sign proven yet past its prime outside shooters which don't really come cheap, while they should concentrate their limited budget for a rugged inside banger & defender that can catch & finish, feeding off the big three. They want instant success, while outside shooters can actually be groomed & found cheaper, ala Gary Neal & Danny Green, if they're patient enough.
Yeah. Horry, Fox, and prime Derek Fisher were total scrubs.
Add one more basketball take to your collection.
Can you be more delusional? They hit wide open shots due to the Lakers having the best 1-2 combo in NBA history. Not totally dissing them, but don't act like either of these 3 ever even sniffed one all star game. They were veteran role players. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Horry and Fisher gave the Lakers championships with their clutchness... role players? lol...
Role players have a place on every championship team. I'm not denying that. I'm not gone pretend they're all stars, like you and mid though.
We didn't pretend they were stars. You straight called them scrubs, which they are obviously not. Scrubs are Troy Murphy and Josh McRoberts, you know, the two players who you claimed would replicate Lamar Odom's production
We didn't pretend they were stars. You straight called them scrubs, which they are obviously not. Scrubs are Troy Murphy and Josh McRoberts, you know, the two players who you claimed would replicate Lamar Odom's production
Prime Shaq + Wade or LeBron would bring a championship.
Quality take.
Role players are not scrubs.
Well if losing Bosh is enough to get them bounced from the 2nd round, they weren't winning anyway. It's not like they've looked particularly dominant with Bosh this year.
I guess you need a legit Big man to win an NBA championship after all.
Unless you have MJ.
I know Shaq was fat, but counting him as two players is just mean.
Old Shaq + Wade did
lol people who act like Wade has been a top 5 player at any point this year. His numbers are the lowest they've been since his rookie year.
And yes, the heat blowing two contracts on Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem was re ed. Signing two mediocre players as their two best bench players just because they'reformer roommates at Florida
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Heat will get it together next game and win in 6. El Che has already predicted this before the series started.
Well now we know why you started this thread.
I'm pretty sure I said they could beat the Pacers without Bosh. They lost last night because of Wade and ty bigs.
At the beginning of the year when the Heat were playing well, people from NBA analysts to fans on these boards were talking about how they had much better depth this year. Battier and the emergence of Norris Cole for a stretch added to Haslem and an allegedly healthier Miller. They were supposed to be deep this season. The problem remained that it was still only perimeter depth. Their frontcourt depth was still very much lacking.
But to your point about Dalembert. Even if the Heat had not given contracts to Miller and Battier, they still couldn't have afforded Dalembert. As a Rockets fan, you know Houston gave him a $7 million per contract. Even if you took the contracts of Miller and Battier off the Heat books, they were still over the cap this year and could only afford up to the MLE. Dalembert should have been a target of the Heat. Maybe he was. But Dalembert signed with the Rockets for a contract the Heat could not match.
The Mike Miller signing is a bit curious only because it was such a big deal to Riley to sign him and Miller is a SG/SF and they had two superstar players at SG/SF who were going to play 36-40 MPG so why should the 4th highest player on the roster be a guy who backs up those two spots? Doesn't make a lot of sense financially.
However, I want to know more about the Heat acquiring a "legit center." Exactly who could they have gotten last summer? I just mentioned that the Heat couldn't have matched the contract Dalembert got from Houston. What legit center was out there and available? This league is devoid of quality centers already. And the centers that are even remotely legitimate are difficult to acquire. Maybe they go after Chris Kaman this summer.
Nicely done!
Bosh was statistically Miami's 2nd most valuable player, this year..Miami's go-to play is the pick&roll between Lebron and Bosh, which has now been replaced by Haslem and Anthony
Miami would have been better off losing Wade, tbh, since there would be better balance with a perimeter player and big man..either way, any logical fan would know that a team that relies on 3 players won't win a le without 1..
Roy Hibbert has a terrible history guarding Bosh..prior to his injury in game 1, Bosh had his way with him..now, Hibbert doesn't even have to give any effort on D, other than weakside help, and he can use most of his energy utilizing his mediocre offensive game, with success..
Take Rodman or Grant off those Bulls teams, and they aren't winning , tbh..
92 & 96 Bulls didn't need them to win a
Bosh was statistically Miami's 2nd most valuable player, this year..Miami's go-to play is the pick&roll between Lebron and Bosh, which has now been replaced by Haslem and Anthony
Miami would have been better off losing Wade, tbh, since there would be better balance with a perimeter player and big man..either way, any logical fan would know that a team that relies on 3 players won't win a le without 1..
Roy Hibbert has a terrible history guarding Bosh..prior to his injury in game 1, Bosh had his way with him..now, Hibbert doesn't even have to give any effort on D, other than weakside help, and he can use most of his energy utilizing his mediocre offensive game, with success..
Take Rodman or Grant off those Bulls teams, and they aren't winning , tbh..
IMO they need to get rid of bosh and turn that into two solid players instead of one ok-all star 3rd banana
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