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He's right, tbh..
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...nning-playoffs
I would. Who wants to watch a finals sweep?Even if Miami–Oklahoma City is the Pipe Dream Finals (just from an entertainment standpoint), no pure basketball fan would refuse a Celtics-Spurs matchup: an old-school battle featuring seven Hall of Famers, two elite coaches, and two proud teams that love playing together, and even better, know how to play together? Putting Duncan vs. Garnett, Rondo vs. Parker, Popovich vs. Doc, the 1997 lottery and every other subplot aside for a second, when you remember what decade we're in — here's a reminder, in case you forgot — the familiarity of that Finals matchup would make it more special than anything.
What a got.
He's right, tbh..
Spurs-Celtics would be one of the best Finals matchups of the last decade.
No, he's not. The Celtics looked sloppy against the Hawks and have dropped a game at home to the worst team in the league since the all star break bar the bobcats.
the spurs would skull their ancient asses.
This series has been four years in the making and it would have happened if San Antonio didn't lose a 20-point lead in Game 1 of the 2008 Western Conference Finals.
Duncan vs Garnett in the Finals.
Bout time.
More importantly though,thinking the celtics can make the finals to begin with. Both the heat and the pacers have their number.
i want them mic'd up so I can hear them compare arthritis meds.
That's not the point..
The Spurs would beat them in 5-6 IMO, but the matchups and storylines would be great..
Garnett vs. Duncan would be historic
Duncan and the 1997 draft
Good positional matchups in Rondo vs. Parker, Ginobili vs. Pierce..
Two teams that were completely counted out, at the start of the season..
7 HOFers?
maybe he's counting the coaches. allen/pierce/kg/rivers/pop/duncan/ginobili.
remember, it's simmons.
it's duncan, pierce, allen, garnett, rondo, bass and stiemsma
The Spurs would have gotten ass raped by the Celtics. They lost a 22pt lead earlier that year, in SA, against Boston while Boston was on the triangle trip (Boston swept Texas btw). Spurs went up 22 in the first quarter, but lost the game. That Celtics team, comparatively speaking, was a juggernaut.
Parker, not Rivers..
he thinks TP and rondo are too.
Many analysts consider Tony a potential HOFer.
Tony, Tim, Manu, KG, Allen, Pierce and Rondo. I don't think Doc is a HOFer but Pop is, but most analysts don't consider coaches when they use that term.
It would be a good matchup, but OKC is winning it all this year if Bosh isn't back real soon.
He went on to say "two elite coaches" right after "seven Hall of Famers" suggesting he wasn't including Pop. Already claiming Rondo a HOFer is ridiculous, even for Bill Simmons. And although they both have a very good chance, neither Parker or Manu are a lock for the HOF at this point. Maybe both are likely, but I wouldn't just say that flippantly to throw that 7 HOF comment around.
Shrugs, it's whatever. The comment just struck me as odd.
Tony should find more success in the international level to further cement his HoF cause.
If he leads France to a 2nd place finish against the United States (nobody is beating the US, period), his case will significantly increase because that would have already meant beating other powerhouses like Argentina and Spain.
Then it must be Gary Neal.
chris mullin got in.
tp has a finals mvp. he'll get int.
chris mullin got in.
tp has a finals mvp. he'll get int.
Manu is HOF lock imo, and if Tony gets another finals MVP this year he's probably in as well.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...=5-on-5-110712
2. Is Manu Ginobili a Hall of Famer?
David Thorpe, Scouts Inc.: He is, indeed. Manu's savvy scoring talents worked perfectly within the Spurs' system, and his passing gifts allowed the Spurs to employ a score-first point guard. Tim Duncan is a top-10 player historically, but Ginobili was a perfect scoring guard to pair with him as well, thanks to excellent shot selection and a huge heart. Few players at that position were better than Manu in his prime, and all who were will be Hall of Famers, too.
Jay Aych, The Painted Area: Absolutely. Manu's NBA stats and accolades stack up favorably compared to Joe Dumars'. Would Ginobili get into an NBA-only HOF? Probably, but that's debatable. When you take into consideration his European accomplishments pre-NBA and his success with the Argentine national team, Manu is a lock next to Bill Bradley, the only player to win Olympic gold, Euroleague le and NBA le.
Rob Mahoney, The Two Man Game: Absolutely. What Ginobili's résumé lacks in longevity, it makes up for it with a string of incredible successes. From 2002-07, Ginobili became an All-Star, posted an average player efficiency rating of 21.1, won three NBA les, championed Argentina to a gold medal in the Olympic games and led his team to a second-place finish in the FIBA World Championship. Throw that Ginobili did for the "euro step" in the NBA what Allen Iverson did for the crossover, and he certainly qualifies as a basketball luminary.
Jonathan Santiago, Cowbell Kingdom: Ginobili has been a key cog on each of the Spurs' championship teams of the past decade. And internationally, he led a team that dethroned the United States in the Olympics for the first time since the U.S. started sending professionals.
Jared Wade, 8 Points In 9 Seconds: Yes. He won three NBA les, an Olympic gold medal, a Euroleague le and an Italian league le. Individually, he has two All-NBA selections, a Sixth Man award, a Euroleague MVP and a few Italian league MVPs. On pure talent, he is no Kobe or Dwyane. He's not even Drexler or Dumars. But he is so accomplished that he gets the nod.
4. Is Tony Parker a Hall of Famer?
David Thorpe, Scouts Inc.: Yes. It's not just the rings, either. For years, Parker has literally been one of the top paint scorers in the league. Try these numbers on for size: In the past five seasons, Parker has never made less than 62.7 percent of his rim shots, while current MVP Derrick Rose made 60 percent of his last season, his best showing ever. When a team's point guard can get to the rim and finish like Parker can, everything else on offense flows so much more easily. Inch for inch and pound for pound, Parker had a stretch as probably the most potent offensive weapon in the NBA.
Jay Aych, The Painted Area: Obviously his NBA career has a lot in common with Ginobili's, so I'll say yes. Parker is maybe the best international point guard ever after Steve Nash. He also was a key figure on three NBA le teams and was Finals MVP in 2007. However, he does not have quite the résumé that Manu and Pau have in FIBA play.
Rob Mahoney, The Two Man Game: Maybe. Parker's career, more than that of any other player included in this space, depends on the years to come. Like Ginobili, Parker is a three-time champion. He also has a trio of All-Star appearances to his name and a handful of highly productive seasons. But Parker has yet to reach the heights that Ginobili once claimed and hasn't had the same level of international success. Parker may be a Hall of Famer yet, but he's not quite there.
Jonathan Santiago, Cowbell Kingdom: I'm iffy about Parker because unlike Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili, he's never really won as the focal point of a team. Duncan has always been the centerpiece of all the Spurs' championship teams, and Ginobili, as I said earlier, led Argentina to a gold-medal victory in the Olympics. With that said, he's probably a Hall of Famer simply by being the most decorated basketball player to emerge from France.
Jared Wade, 8 Points In 9 Seconds: Nope. He is a huge step below both Manu and Pau in talent and can't come close to matching their decorated international careers. I'm not even sure there is a legitimate case to be made for Parker, unless perhaps you think Chauncey Billups or Horace Grant is a Hall of Famer.
All 5 are pretty certain on Ginoibli's HOF-worthiness, but for Parker as of July 2011 it's: yes, yes, maybe, iffy, no
Parker's definitely on the bubble, but Ginobili has the "Bill Bradley" thing going for him (the only other player besides Bradley to win the Euroleague, have an olympic gold, and an nba championship).
You have to consider that Tony is 30 years old and has at least 5 years left, maybe 10. He basically has as much ahead of him as behind him, so he could wither away and be forgotten or he could post a few more great years at PG. Right now, if he retired, he would be in the conversation but probably not get it.
lol 40 year old point guard contributing.
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