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    "We agreed the Zimmerman didn't stalk Martin"

    You Lie. Bully, less, violent, armed Z stalked and confronted M, then shot him to death when M Stood His Ground.
    remember when you were saying this was a hate crime by a white guy
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    Witness Told Cops He Saw Trayvon Martin Straddling George Zimmerman And Punching Him "MMA Style"

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/...witness-758903
    yep, just Standing His Florida Ground. Black guys can play, too.
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    Zimmerman racially profiling the kid should be just as agreeable as Martin giving him a little whooping.
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    remember when you were saying this was a hate crime by a white guy
    If he's not white then what is he?
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    If he's not white then what is he?
    I believe he's Hispanic (which I guess doesn't prevent him from being white) but he doesn't look fully white to me. Isn't his mother South American?
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    I believe he's Hispanic (which I guess doesn't prevent him from being white) but he doesn't look fully white to me. Isn't his mother South American?
    Hispanic is not a race.
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    Hispanic is not a race.
    I know. That's why I said being Hispanic wouldn't necessarily mean he wasn't white.
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    Witness Told Cops He Saw Trayvon Martin Straddling George Zimmerman And Punching Him "MMA Style"

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/...witness-758903
    Game set match?

    I don't see how the prosecution is going to overcome this.
    Altho that same Florida prosecuter snatch managed to get 20 years for the gal who fired the warning shot against her abusive ape baby daddy.
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    lol MMA
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    Game set match?

    I don't see how the prosecution is going to overcome this.
    Altho that same Florida prosecuter snatch managed to get 20 years for the gal who fired the warning shot against her abusive ape baby daddy.
    Yup you're definitely the type of people who supports Zimmerman.
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    Yeah...that was a tough sell. Frankly I'm not sure if anyone disputes that a fight took place. And in any case Trayvon had a right defend himself under the cir stances. Especially if it was just a laceration on his ring finger.

    What I can't get over is the fact that apparently the gun was fired from an intermediate distance. That thoroughly debunks the "headbashing into the concrete ()--> Shot him while he was on top of me" defense.

    According to this website:

    "An intermediate range gunshot, like that seen in the above image, can range from just beyond the 12-inch range out to 24 to 36 inches. This depends greatly upon the caliber, barrel length and powder type used in the ammunition."

    http://www.firearmsid.com/A_distanceResults.htm

    Regardless of what happened during the fight (which I have no doubt happened), if the kid was shot from that kind of distance he was no longer a threat by the time Zimmerman pulled the trigger imo. I think taking this guy to court was absolutely the right thing to do here.

    Edit in response to Chump: Yeah. That's what makes this whole situation even harder to accept.
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    Yup you're definitely the type of people who supports Zimmerman.
    2/10 on your strawman attempt.

    Your troll schtick is Al Sharpy type, right?
    You haven't weighed in on the abusive ape thread yet:
    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197101
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    Yeah...that was a tough sell. Frankly I'm not sure if anyone disputes that a fight took place.
    That and people responded and cops were on the way.
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    2/10 on your strawman attempt.

    Your troll schtick is Al Sharpy type, right?
    You haven't weighed in on the abusive ape thread yet:
    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197101
    It's not a schtick. I simply just respond to racist comments. If there weren't any racist comments then I wouldn't seem so Al Sharpy. Simple as that.

    Anyway I already commented on the story, just not in your thread. It would be ed up if she's able to get her 20 years and Zimmerman gets a way lesser time or acquitted.
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    Hasn't it been talked about how witnesses saw the two fighting like that before? Its not as if that is any new information. I really just want to hear the state's case. All the people looking for a reason to exonerate Zimmerman at every turn are getting old.

    Let's hear the state's case and be done with it.
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    2/10 on your strawman attempt.

    Your troll schtick is Al Sharpy type, right?
    You haven't weighed in on the abusive ape thread yet:
    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197101
    Go ahead and play like calling people apes isn't more telling about the type of person you are than they are.
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    Martin was high, as suggested by Zimmerman.

    Zimmerman's wounds are consistent with his self-defense claim and his version of events.

    There is an eye witness to corroborate his claim that was only a few yards away.

    Case closed.
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    Yeah...that was a tough sell. Frankly I'm not sure if anyone disputes that a fight took place. And in any case Trayvon had a right defend himself under the cir stances. Especially if it was just a laceration on his ring finger.

    What I can't get over is the fact that apparently the gun was fired from an intermediate distance. That thoroughly debunks the "headbashing into the concrete ()--> Shot him while he was on top of me" defense.

    According to this website:

    "An intermediate range gunshot, like that seen in the above image, can range from just beyond the 12-inch range out to 24 to 36 inches. This depends greatly upon the caliber, barrel length and powder type used in the ammunition."

    http://www.firearmsid.com/A_distanceResults.htm

    Regardless of what happened during the fight (which I have no doubt happened), if the kid was shot from that kind of distance he was no longer a threat by the time Zimmerman pulled the trigger imo. I think taking this guy to court was absolutely the right thing to do here.

    Edit in response to Chump: Yeah. That's what makes this whole situation even harder to accept.
    1"-18"

    The autopsy also shows that Zimmerman shot Martin from a distance of between 1 inch and 18 inches away, bolstering Zimmerman's claim that he shot Martin during a close struggle.
    Now you can get over it since it wasn't a fact after all.
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    when you deliberately stalk with the intent to kill, its good to be close to your target.
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    Go ahead and play like calling people apes isn't more telling about the type of person you are than they are.
    I called Rico Gray an ape.

    Rico Gray, was arrested in 2006 and 2009 on charges of domestic battery.
    More on Gray: ‘I got five baby mammas, and I put my hands on every last one of them except for one,” Rico Gray confessed during a November 2010 deposition. “The way I was with women . . . they had to walk on eggs s around me.” He recalled punching women in the face, shoving them, choking them and tossing them out the door.

    Why is it more telling?
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    Trayvon Martin supporters have released this photo showing Martin on the night of his being stalked and murdered. Martin was on his way to buy milk to contribute to the churches Sunday charity luncheon.
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    Martin was high, as suggested by Zimmerman.

    Zimmerman's wounds are consistent with his self-defense claim and his version of events.

    There is an eye witness to corroborate his claim that was only a few yards away.

    Case closed.
    The video on Martin at the store shows otherwise. He was walking straight, coherent enough to count change and *gasp* he didn't steal. Such a hardcore gangsta thug.
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    I called Rico Gray an ape.

    Rico Gray, was arrested in 2006 and 2009 on charges of domestic battery.
    More on Gray: ‘I got five baby mammas, and I put my hands on every last one of them except for one,” Rico Gray confessed during a November 2010 deposition. “The way I was with women . . . they had to walk on eggs s around me.” He recalled punching women in the face, shoving them, choking them and tossing them out the door.

    Why is it more telling?
    So I guess you watch Cops and other shows and when you see black people show up you think its appropriate to call them apes? He was a criminal sociopath but human nonetheless. You familiar with the concept of dehumanization?
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    Martin was high, as suggested by Zimmerman.

    Zimmerman's wounds are consistent with his self-defense claim and his version of events.

    There is an eye witness to corroborate his claim that was only a few yards away.

    Case closed.
    I realize you are only stirring up but there is only evidence that he ingested pot within the previous 4 weeks. Not that he was high at that time. there have been eyewitnesses purporting that same thing before. I haven't seen many people claim that he beat himself up. I also haven't been able to correlate the locations, timing etc between the testimonies.

    Right now its the same status quo as before which obviously gives reasonable doubt. Martin beat on Zimmerman before he shot him. Oh wait he had smoked some pot within the previous few weeks as if that is an excuse to shoot someone.

    What will be telling is if the prosecution has a witness to the beginning of the confrontation. ie the events that precipitated the fight.
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    So I guess you watch Cops and other shows and when you see black people show up you think its appropriate to call them apes?
    I was talking about Rico Gray.
    What are you strawmanning off for?

    Are you yet another ST troll whose sole purpose is to amass hits to the site?
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