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He'll be a restricted free agent so the Spurs can match.
Good to see picnroll posting. One of my favorites, tbh
How will the Spurs re-sign Green next year? What are the scenarios?
He'll be a restricted free agent so the Spurs can match.
Good to see picnroll posting. One of my favorites, tbh
are they able to match even it puts them over the cap?
Bruno from the Think tank thread. So basically, he'll sign for his QO of 3.3M, or a contract for longer term, hopefully with the Spurs, but could be elsewhere if another team offers well above mid level(I don't think the Spurs would want to pay Afflalo money, especially with potential capspace coming in a year).A couple of things about the new CBA after a quick read of Larry Coon's FAQ.
* First, the biggest change for Spurs this summer is regarding Danny Green Qualifying Offer.
Danny Green has started 38 games of a 66 games season. He met the "starter criteria".
Green was a second round pick of the 2009 draft. His qualifying offer is $3,342,175. It's fully guaranteed like all the QO in the new CBA.
This biggest QO has two consequences. It's less obvious for Spurs to tender the QO but given how well Green has played, they will likely offer it. If Green doesn't get a contract offer he likes this summer, it will be easier for him to accept the QO and try again to get a big contract next summer when he will be an UFA.
Well I think we have early bird rights so we can re-sign him at up the league average salary, usually around $5 million per year. I don't think another team is allowed to offer him more than that either. If I have all that right, sound like we can make him a small qualifying offer of $1 million, then wait and see what offers he gets and simply match those if we want.
In other words, we may just be sitting pretty with Green. Since the CBA has not been release to the public, I am just interpreting Wikipedia and hoping it is correct.
OK new info on the QO, which would still be a nice price for Green. Still not sure another team can offer more than the league average salary or MLE, which should be close to the same amount.
That's half true.
If a team offers Green a contract whose starting salary is above the league average salary which will be around $5.1M or $5.2M, Spurs won't be able to match and will automatically lose Green.
I really like Danny Green, but if someone offers him a contract over midlevel, they can have him. He's a solid defender who can hit the long ball and do a few other things, but he'll never be a star, and we shouldn't devote that kind of cap to him.
Last edited by tesseractive; 05-19-2012 at 09:27 PM.
Green has always been an intangibles guy. He provides more value to a winning team. I am not sure there will be a huge market for him.
I assumed Green was covered in the new Gilbert Arenas Rule. But it looks like that rule only applies for players with two or less years in the league. So because Green played 8 games last year, he wouldn't be protected ... if I'm understanding the rule correctly.
The good news is that the only way he makes more than $5 million a year is if he explodes along the path to the Spurs winning a championship. I can live with losing Danny Green if it means championship No. 5, tbh.
Definitely a playoff performer. He hit some key shots today and usually he finishes around the rim well. Can't see someone throwing big money at him.
If I had to guess we'll probably lose Jack - Diaw is a must to re-sign with the MLE. Lots of noise about Lorbek but the attraction is that you can get a big for half the price. The Spurs already have that guy in Splitter.
i say you resign him, duncan would opt for a paycut half what his earning now, with scrubs like anderson and blair fckn off somewhere else....take the tax hit for one year since ginoboli and jax are expiring
Losing Danny does not matter of we win the le this year
What is this rule?
givin up the chance to repeat?
or giving up the chance to hold onto something to build for the future once duncan retires?
It's called the Early Bird Exception:
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q25
The threat of a team offering Green more than $5M per year is more a hypothetical threat than a true one. Teams should hesitate to give him a lot of money because they will likely see him as a product of Spurs system with a limited upside.
One of the team owners this past week said that his biggest concern for next season is being able to keep Green. Maybe nobody will offer that much, but the Spurs FO is sweating it.
Last edited by GSH; 05-19-2012 at 10:45 PM.
I don't see whereit says the spurs can't match any offer sheet?If the player is a restricted free agent with two years of service and qualifies for the Early Bird exception, then the player's prior team may use the Early Bird exception to match an offer sheet he receives from another team (see question numbers 43 and 44). This is true even if the starting salary for the Early Bird exception is lower than the starting salary of an offer sheet, which is based on the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception.
Yeah thats true to a certain extend, but if the kid keeps coming through at crunchtime like he has been doing last few months, its hard to see how his value wouldnt balloon up beyond that mark. George Hill, another product of the system is making the Pacers FO feel really good about themselves these days. That fact along with Greens stellar play might just be enough for A team on brink of contention to pull the trigger and throw ML at him.
There are plenty of stupid GMs.
Green is great here, in Spurs uniform. But does, unproven (elsewhere) guy, with one great season, in specific system, is worth 5yrs / 35 mil ?
A guy with Green's defensive versatility is hard to find, often comes by way of a pretty high draft pick. I really hope the Spurs can keep him along with Diaw. Maybe Jack will tell him about the downside of chasing money.
Last edited by picnroll; 05-19-2012 at 10:49 PM. Reason: Addition
Green has three years of service. This rule "called the "Gilbert Arenas" rule doesn't apply to him.
Well apparently 5yrs/28-30m would do the trick. And w can hardly resent a unproven (elsewhere) guy, with one great season, in specific system not to take a few extra mill, can we?There are plenty of stupid GMs.
Green is great here, in Spurs uniform. But does, unproven (elsewhere) guy, with one great season, in specific system, is worth 5yrs / 35 mil ?
Anyways it would suck real bad to loose him, Diaw, Green, Kawhi, Splitter are the 4 guys that really need to be brought back. Dont give a about the rest, but loosing any of these 4 makes us significantly worse imo.
Something else to consider is what Green want. He might be ready to take a little discount to stay with Spurs, a winning team where he fits well. Spurs max offer for him would be around $23M for 4 years. He might rather go with that than with, for example, a $26M/4 years offer from another team. Now if a team goes with $30M over 4 years, he should left the team.
And it's also true with Diaw. Spurs will only be able to offer him $21.35M over 4 years. If he continues like that in these playoffs, another team could offer him more but Diaw could still decide to re-sign with Spurs for less money.
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